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From: Buero

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Date: 10/14/2024 11:12:49 AM
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I think the training sistem need a downgrade, the engine is not prepared for players with +20 in 5 skills.

From: js8

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Date: 10/14/2024 7:26:34 PM
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This comment isn't aimed to criticise your point, but all the suggestions and improvements I see people make to training (including the thread szewaa tagged), always lead to making training easier. We regularly see players of 155+TSP on the transfer list nowadays; we have had the training speed increased, youth trainers and gyms have been added, yet people still want to make training easier? I don't get it.

Winning titles is hard. Building balanced teams is hard. Why should the opposite of winning (ie: tanking to train) be any easier? Part of the challenge and enjoyment of training is making sure your trainees reach their weekly threshold of minutes despite sometimes playing out of position, sometimes defending tougher opponents and sometimes totally unbalancing your squad. For those managers who train three players single position, that also presents a challenge, but guess what.. there is a solution to making training easier! Train two players and reduce the chances of your trainees not getting their allocated minutes. It's a balance of risk vs reward.

If anything needs a major overhaul, it is the salary formula but that's a discussion for another thread. Fix that and we introduce new training options but until that's resolved, the obvious training choices will continue to be dominated by high IS guards and high SB bigs.

Last edited by js8 at 10/14/2024 7:27:51 PM

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Date: 10/15/2024 8:22:05 AM
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When we discuss issues related to training positions, please make sure to include this summary of opposing views (323722.8).

From: js8

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Date: 10/15/2024 8:31:51 AM
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Thanks, and I agree that point isn't to make training easier

But it does make training easier? Rather than forcing teams to train players by fielding them for 48+ minutes per week, you're suggesting to supplement some of their training by 'practice'.

It's not the training system that is causing little diversity in player pool, it's the salary formula. Fix that and you can create guards with high PS, you can create bigs with high JS and managers find ways to make new salary efficient monsters.

From: tough
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Date: 10/15/2024 8:49:51 PM
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I am open to changing training up, make it a point to earn training slots and ease the effectiveness of it. However one opportunity I see a lot with the training system and the buffs given to incentivize training is the value of a skill now.

When I'm speaking to value of a skill, I'm talking about the word colossal or legendary. Even those players above level legendary (20+) these skills are a dime a dozen now. You do a TL search for Outside Defense = 20+ and you will see 49 players.

Driving skill 20 or above is 135 players. 52 players for Jump shot.

If a skill is truly to be level colossal or legendary, there should be some sort of difficulty with earning that skill. The joy of getting the skill to legendary; the hard work and the glory of waking up that Friday morning to see your player get that skill pop should be celebrated. Right now the value of these skills are at its lowest point due to the decreasing manager pool. The player base will now be inflated further due to the Lebron effect aging players later. You will see 38+ age players play effortlessly in top tier leagues with the right staff in place; 40+ age players playing in 2nd and 3rd tier divisions regularly.

I agree we need to change the training, however we do need to revisit the value of skills and the difficulty doing so.


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