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10152.1
Date: 12/16/2007 3:47:20 AM
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Hello everyone,

this thread might be totally useless, however, before leaving the game, I wanted to share my feeling. First, I do consider the game as very attractive. Nice design, good rhythm. In return, 15 games later, I am still deeply frustrated. I have been trying different game systems, trying to improve the team performance step by step. I do not understand any of my losses, as I do not understand any of my wins. My league is dominated by computer teams.

Nothing seems to stand for reason.

So, I just meant to say the game has some great assets but lacks terribly in clarification. I might be stupid too regarding my choices. However, still, I have no clues on how to get better. The game is definitively not intuitive. Keeping on losing against phantom teams makes me think there might be something wrong in this game.

Cheers.

Edited by Mandacus (12/16/2007 3:50:19 AM CET)

Last edited by Mandacus at 12/16/2007 3:50:19 AM

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10152.3 in reply to 10152.2
Date: 12/16/2007 3:52:06 AM
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thanks for replying so fast.

If it's very normal to lose to computer teams, then I am not sure this is really good for the game. I won't be the only one to give up...

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10152.5 in reply to 10152.4
Date: 12/16/2007 6:38:14 AM
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not a short-term game. It's a sim, not an arcade game.


You're right, and I understood that. Even if it is a long term game, it does not help me to understand the engine. It is just terribly frustrating. I'll happy to take any kind of advice to shed light on the way it works.

Again, facing computer teams and losing by 20 points does not make sense. It seems to me that those teams play with the options set by default. Meaning a very predictable outcome.

By now, I thought I could control some of the games. Nada.
I don't mind losing. But I'd appreciate to understand why....

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10152.6 in reply to 10152.5
Date: 12/16/2007 11:07:32 AM
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I understand your frustration, in particular about computerized teams, although I only see one of them in your league and none in your conference.

The game engine is so complex and takes into account so many variables that sometimes it seems like your choices are, in the end, not that relevant.
Yesterday I lost my game just because in the extra time and with a low post tactic, my team took 6/12 3p shots (2 the center and 1 the PF!!!) and only 3/12 inside shots.

More, the random at the moment is giving quite an important contribution and there are tons of posts of guys asking how they possibly lost their games. I guess it's not a consolation for you, but you should have definitely won yesterday's game, with two levels difference in the team ratings between your inside attack and the opponent's inside defense.

But things are going to improve... with time, differences between teams are going to increase and the random will play a smaller role. More, computerized teams will be more from bad manager with bad teams, unlike now, where 90% of the teams have similar team ratings.

A piece of advice... give BB another shot! And try to improve your team rating in rebounding... having awful with using 2-3 defense is really penalizing at our level!

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10152.7 in reply to 10152.1
Date: 12/16/2007 3:28:53 PM
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I do not understand any of my losses, as I do not understand any of my wins. My league is dominated by computer teams.


This pretty much describes my entry into BB a bit over a season ago. I lost 5 of my first 6 league games by an average of 25 points, all to inactive teams and bots. During that time (and throughout the rest of the season and even well into this one) I learned what players worked and which ones didn't. I read the forums a lot. I read the rules a lot. I asked a lot of questions. I trained my players.

But your situation is different thatn mine was, as your league only has one bot. There are a few inactive teams, but they're in the other conference.

As someone else said, you're likely matched with very similar teams ability-wise. Hang with it, find 4-6 players to train (I'd recommend 4, as 6 is rather slow) and watch your team improve with those players. When you can afford to, improve the parts of your team that aren't being trained with players more highly-skilled than the ones you play in those positions currently. And trim your team to no more than 15 players.

Besides, you don't really wanna quit before you see what kind of draft picks you get, do you?

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10152.8 in reply to 10152.7
Date: 12/16/2007 6:58:34 PM
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Thanks guys for your answers.

About the bot, without keeping records on that, it seems to me that at least 5 teams have found a new owner in a relatively short period of time. One of them was leading the other conference...

Anyway, it's not the point. I appreciate your advices.