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From: Vycka
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Date: 12/16/2007 10:50:57 AM
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Hello, I have question. Last year my division team which win first game and lost in second game, was promoted to LBBL. I have question if you want to promote to LBBL, you need win only first game in playoff and you get ticket to LBBL ? Can somebody answer ?

From: ned

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10163.2 in reply to 10163.1
Date: 12/16/2007 10:55:51 AM
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Only who wins the PO will be promoted. Last season there were a lot of BOTs that's why some teams were promoted even if they didn't win ;)

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From: Vycka

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Date: 12/16/2007 11:16:48 AM
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PO are first stage, if you win first stage you promoted to first division ?

From: johny13

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10163.4 in reply to 10163.3
Date: 12/16/2007 11:20:56 AM
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no you have to become the champion of your whole conference to get promoted.

From: Vycka

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10163.5 in reply to 10163.4
Date: 12/16/2007 11:45:24 AM
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In lithuania first league from 16 teams are 9 bots, I think BB- can do this one more time, that lot of managers promote to First division.

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Date: 12/16/2007 11:51:40 AM
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In the I.1 from The Netherlands we only have 4 active teams from 16 haha.

From: jimrtex

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Date: 12/16/2007 12:05:51 PM
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Only the playoff winner from each league automatically promotes. So Kurkuliai promoted from II.1 because they won the playoff. In addition, other teams were promoted in order to replace bots. This was based on regular season record. From II.1, Soldatai (15-7) and Aukuras & Krazante (12-10) promoted.

This had nothing to do with their performance in the playoffs, but was extra. For example Soldatai lost in the 1st round of the playoffs.

Since there are 10 bots in the LBBL, there is likely to be a similar promotion at the end of this season, with an extra 6 teams promoting from the 4 D.II leagues. In addition, there is likely to be extra teams promoting into the D.II leagues to replace their bots.

From: Vycka

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10163.8 in reply to 10163.7
Date: 12/16/2007 12:31:03 PM
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By what teams will be promoted ? by place in regular season ?

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Date: 12/16/2007 12:38:46 PM
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You get promoted if you win the playoffs. Period.

Only exception is when bots cleanups take place at the end of the season. Where a few lucky players get to promote to higher division even though they lost in the finals.

Edited by Riceball (12/16/2007 12:39:54 PM CET)

Last edited by Legen...Riceball...Dary! at 12/16/2007 12:39:54 PM

From: jimrtex

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Date: 12/16/2007 1:35:49 PM
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According to the rules, only the winner of the league playoffs will promote.

Last season, there was an additional promotion after the promotion where additional bots were relegated as far down as possible, and active teams were promoted.

Last season in the LBBL there were 5 bot teams. Somewhat oddly, they finished 1st, 1st, 2nd, 5th, and 8th. The team that finished 8th relegated normally to D.II, along with a 6th, 7th, and 8th place teams that were active. These teams were replaced by the 4 playoff winners from D.II (3 of these teams also won their conference regular season, and one was 2nd place in the regular season).

Then the remaining 4 bots in the LBBL were replaced. It appears that the 4 teams that promoted were conference winners. It didn't matter if they lost the first game of the playoffs or lost in the finals. The 8th D.II conference winner was a bot, so they relegated to D.III. I don't know what tie-breaker would have been used, since none was needed in this case.

Last season from my league in D.IV, 6 teams promoted. The playoff winner was a bot, and they promoted, and then were instantly relegated into another league. Then 5 other teams were promoted, including 2 1st place teams, 2 3rd place teams, and one 4th place team (both 2nd place teams were bots - including the playoff winner).

There is really not a guarantee that the bot cleanup will be done every season, but I think it is extremely likely. In some cases, it will be mild, such as last season in the LBBL where all promoted teams from D.II were conference winners or playoff winners. In other cases, it could mean that almost all the teams in a league will promote.