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From: ned
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Date: 7/27/2009 9:19:58 AM
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Ok guys, tv contract has gone, now accordingly with the info written by BBs the "biggest arena" should be a little bit more empty. I hope BBs decide to balance the system in order to have arena of about 25-30k seats , in this way no one could earn more than 600k/week. The teams that have the big arenas can sell their seats earning money so at the end they will have more money to be spend on the market and I think they could be still happy. Starting from tomorrow we will see if the fans will be redeuced.

Another point is about the merchandising we will find at the end of this season; I remember we talked to give a bonus to the teams that have in their roster very good players but I really hope the parameter to decide how is a good player is not related to the National team otherwise we will see bad things and big discussion. In which way do you think BBs will consider a good player? Salary? Vote? Sum of skills?

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Date: 7/27/2009 9:29:21 AM
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Ok guys, tv contract has gone, now accordingly with the info written by BBs the "biggest arena" should be a little bit more empty


no the biggest arena should be more empty at the start of the next season according to the BB. And in the end we shouldn't have less money because of the merchandise contract, because one target was that Ikstens and co could stay in top clubs.

From: ned

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Date: 7/27/2009 9:36:22 AM
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so at the end in this case these changes were made only to put money on the market? I thought everything was done to balance better the economy and I'm sure that somewhere the BBs have written that will be not anymore convenient to have an arena of 60.000 seats.
A little OT about Ikstens, I think is impossible to keep similar player in roster if the salary will raise with an exponential system; next season if trained all the season as center he could have 500k/week of salary O_o"

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Date: 7/27/2009 9:39:29 AM
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so at the end in this case these changes were made only to put money on the market?


i don't know why exactly they are made, but one reason was to avoid farming in making star player still attractive for the top leagues. And taking the crying italians, a chanche to stay in frotn of the manager who choose a long term strategy, without making their rooster temporary weaker.

From: ned

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102952.5 in reply to 102952.4
Date: 7/27/2009 9:48:52 AM
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so at the end the italians won against the economy based on the construction done by germans?

We will see other opinion these changes I thought were made to avoid that a team like torooo (just for example) will continue to make money thanks to the low competition, big arena and not so expensive roster. In your bundesliga there is a team that earns 430k/week, for sure he's a great manager and for sure in other countries people decided to invest in the arena but till now both strategy could be valid, invest on the arena or on the roster. Only now is completely clear that the first choice was much better, as written before I think an arena of 25-30k seats could be the best, if you think having a Maracanà stadium in Ausburg probably is more than enough

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Date: 7/27/2009 9:55:12 AM
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We will see other opinion these changes I thought were made to avoid that a team like torooo (just for example) will continue to make money thanks to the low competition, big arena and not so expensive roster.


we'll see, maybe the other contribution with more marketing and less visitors make the gap smaller betwenn succesfull teams and unsuccesfull teams. I don't watch torooo's rooster for a while, but is his rooster really cheap?

From: ned

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Date: 7/27/2009 10:04:15 AM
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Not now... He should pay about 640k/week, before to buy Romagnoli he has a roster similar to ours speaking about salary.

Anyway I don't want to focus my attention to the arena, now I should earn about 30k/week, with these money I will update mine and in the year 2020, I'll be the same arena that you
What do you think about marchanding related to the power to the player you've in roster? How do you think he will be implemented?

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Date: 7/27/2009 10:05:45 AM
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I think it will basing on salary with an Bonus for NT players, but to be honest i have no idea how they do it really^^

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Date: 7/27/2009 10:06:15 AM
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(...) invest on the arena or on the roster. Only now is completely clear that the first choice was much better, (...)


I disagree. All those that invested in roster without thinking about financial consequences (wages) are now happy. TV-Revenues are an immediate payback based on wages - and Arena revenues will be cut soon.

A very populist measure to keep everybody (who overspent) happy.

From: ned

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Date: 7/27/2009 10:09:42 AM
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Once again, for me it's ok also to give a premium to everyone that invested in the arena but we should have a stop in the buildings, 60k, 100k but at the end we can't continue to raise the gap increasing the arena. As far as I know who has the big arena can now sell the seats and having back the money.

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From: CrazyEye

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102952.11 in reply to 102952.10
Date: 7/27/2009 10:14:31 AM
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Once again, for me it's ok also to give a premium to everyone that invested in the arena but we should have a stop in the buildings


we had one, the tall blacks reached it for example in the VIP section(or nearly) with hundreds seats. And the investment was huge, for a small advantage against my 50 seats so i also don't expect much teams to build their arena to the end.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 7/27/2009 10:14:58 AM