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From: proat91
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Date: 8/27/2009 2:21:18 PM
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I understand that Princeton is about 4 perimeters surrounding 1 good post player and it involves alot of passing. The idea is that players cut towards the basket and recieve a pass for an easy inside score. If the opposing team is defending inside, then players simply launch open 3's. I am considering using princeton because my starting lineup is basically 1 PG, 2 SG, 1 SF and 1 center. They all have great perimeter skills and, while they don't have much inside shot, they have excellent driving. My questions are, do my players need to have good inside shot, and can I be a legitimate threat against a well rounded defense using princeton and the players I have?

I'd aprreciate any suggestions. Thank you.

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107020.2 in reply to 107020.1
Date: 8/27/2009 4:51:39 PM
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My questions are, do my players need to have good inside shot, and can I be a legitimate threat against a well rounded defense using princeton and the players I have?



My guess would be that inside scoring would be very helpful, but since you have good driving, you will most likely get easier inside looks; therefore, you do not need as high inside scoring. That being said, it would always be better to just run an outside based offense such as Motion or Run n' gun.
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I would say that your team Could potentially be a threat to a well-rounded defense, but i think you would do better with an outside based offense like i mentioned above. Since you don't have strong inside scorers, i am guessing your centers have reasonably good rebounding which is perfect for Run n' Gun.

Hope i helped,
Jordanjr

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Date: 8/27/2009 5:44:21 PM
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I have always played run'n gun or motion, but I was playing around with the idea of using a very unorthodox offensive strategy.Nobody seems to identify a situation where princeton might be a favorable tactic other than an extremely mismatched game. I guess I should test in scrimmages and easy games and see what happens, if it's in the game, it should be useful for something even if it's a rare situation. I think it's interesting, because Princeton isn't really a basic tactic, i would say that it falls under the same category as Triangle Offense.

Anyway, thank you for the advice!

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Date: 8/28/2009 2:08:25 AM
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No problem, I was reading the thread over and another thing that popped into my head was that you could try using Princeton when the opposing team has good Outside D. Just a thought though, hope i helped.

From: robhoe
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107020.5 in reply to 107020.4
Date: 8/28/2009 5:21:04 AM
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This was where my question was...how effective do you think princeton would be against 1-3-1?

My conference final is against a team that has consistently used 1-3-1 and while I won using look inside...though my thought was using princeton might provide some safety as a tactic...should my opponent still play 1-3-1 I would (In theory) still be going for the inside shots and should they switch to a inside zone I would (in theory) have the focus for the outside shooting.

What do people think about this?

From: proat91

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Date: 8/28/2009 1:43:46 PM
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This was where my question was...how effective do you think princeton would be against 1-3-1?

My conference final is against a team that has consistently used 1-3-1 and while I won using look inside...though my thought was using princeton might provide some safety as a tactic...should my opponent still play 1-3-1 I would (In theory) still be going for the inside shots and should they switch to a inside zone I would (in theory) have the focus for the outside shooting.

What do people think about this?


I guess if you have a balanced offense, it could work. The problem is that you will be palying in a very slow pace in which case if you are noticeably better than your opponent you will be giving him a better chance to compete in a tight game. People say that princeton will just make you lose but lately I haven't found any threads regarding princeton. I'm the NT manager of Puerto Rico and I think I will be experimenting with princeton in my next scrimmage monday, but I don't plan taking any risks in important games such as a semifinal using an unproven tactic, at least not until i'm sure it will work.

From: Tesse

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107020.7 in reply to 107020.1
Date: 8/31/2009 8:59:45 AM
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I'm interested in your results with this tactic.

I used it in my QF of the PO but it didn't make me win the match. It's a match that I probably would have lost either ay so it's okay.

In this QF the worst performance in shot % was of my U21 NT PF (1-12) and my subsitute C/PF. They also have the worst Driving skills (while the IS of the PF as well as his JS/JR is pretty good).

So I wonder how good your players with their nice driving skills will do.

p.s. I believe the tactic is not as bad as it used to be.

Crunchy! If you eat fast enough
From: proat91

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Date: 9/5/2009 10:24:49 PM
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I lost my first finals game by three points (his court) using Motion. when i used princeton in my second game I won by eleven points. He used 1-3-1 in the first game and man-to man in the sceond one. I have strong OS and inept IS. Both tactics gave me very similar results ( except in pace). but with motion I had a higher 3pt % while I had an overall better Fg % with Princeton. i also shot 18 more foul shots with princeton (in part due to intentional fouling at the end of the game). I also noticed that my Power Forward took alot more inside shots and assisted mid range jumpers with princeton. I think it is important that the PF must be a solid post player and a decent jump shooter but not necessarily from long range. My tiebraker is tommorow but I am not sure what to use.

From: Tesse

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Date: 9/6/2009 12:34:25 PM
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Thanks for posting the results.

I think the HCA made the difference between loss and win in these matches. It is interesting that your 3pt% was worse when you played princeton while his defense was MTM instead of 1-3-1....(so a lot less outside minded).

It's interesting that your PF made a lot of inside shots and mid-range jumpers, since my PF should have done allright in this as well. I thought that maybe his poor driving skills cost him a lot of points. How's your driving skills of your PF?

I think the motion tactic was actually still your better tactic but that the Home Court Advantage and his different choice in defense won you the match at home.

Your opponent might switch back to a 1-3-1 or 3-2 since he got a better result with that one, so I'm not sure what would be best for you to use either.

Good luck tonight anyway!

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From: Plotts
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Date: 9/6/2009 3:29:03 PM
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Princeton works well against FCP. That's the only time I use it.

From: proat91
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Date: 9/6/2009 11:07:50 PM
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well i wob my final game 90-80 with princeton but my opponent didnt really play his best tactics so i dont know.