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112386.1
Date: 9/19/2009 11:33:02 AM
Superhelden
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I noticed that the new game engine has some considerable influence on the foul probability of some players.

Most obvious example in my team is player M. Coch (4566648) who used to foul 2.5 times during S8 and now sometimes fouls out in less than 15 minutes (15468719).
combined he has 26 fouls in 145 minutes played since the start of S10. Which nreally seems a lot in comparison to the ratio of the old engine.

Thanks for looking into this.

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112386.2 in reply to 112386.1
Date: 9/19/2009 11:59:38 AM
1986 Celtics
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We didn't make any changes to the fouling model, so i'm not sure what would have caused this. I will continue to think of something that might be a secondary indirect effect.

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112386.3 in reply to 112386.2
Date: 9/19/2009 2:01:59 PM
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is there anything leading to fouls behind the game and the player's skill distribution?

like player's temper etc.

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112386.4 in reply to 112386.3
Date: 9/19/2009 2:09:09 PM
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I think (not sure!) that the BBs have confessed a hidden "physicality" stat, which reflects the rate at which a player both fouls and gets fouled.

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112386.5 in reply to 112386.4
Date: 9/19/2009 2:10:16 PM
Superhelden
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sure. but that would not explain why there was no foultrouble issue up to season 8 and not there is one (for the same player).

btw, today he fouled out again in 29 minutes.

Last edited by Superheld at 9/19/2009 2:10:40 PM

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112386.6 in reply to 112386.4
Date: 9/19/2009 2:55:07 PM
Freccia Azzurra
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it could be an idea to decrease this hidden skill when the player grows in the defenses. Having a 18 yo with potential and good skills but that making too much fouls is really a pity also because he can't change. Increasing the defenses he will not make 5 fouls as average but 4 or 4,5 so he will remain a player with an homicide instinct but not a serial killer

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112386.7 in reply to 112386.6
Date: 9/19/2009 4:45:25 PM
Superhelden
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may it have something to do with the newly implemented helpside-blocking of the inside players vs. driving guards? If this helpside block comes with a certain foul-probability this might be an explanation.

If thats the reason the attempt to increase the value of the blocking skill failed (as then higher foul probability overcompensates the slightly increased blocking probability)

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112386.8 in reply to 112386.7
Date: 9/19/2009 7:01:18 PM
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Any idea why my player has had foul trouble his whole life even though his skills are better than average?


Jump Shot: prodigious Jump Range: prominent
Outside Def.: sensational Handling: prolific
Driving: prolific Passing: sensational
Inside Shot: atrocious Inside Def.: awful
Rebounding: respectable Shot Blocking: atrocious
Stamina: inept Free Throw: respectable

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112386.9 in reply to 112386.8
Date: 9/19/2009 7:05:22 PM
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Hidden ability's influence the foul trouble of the players. He probably is a quite physical player, which leads to foul trouble.

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112386.10 in reply to 112386.8
Date: 9/19/2009 10:24:22 PM
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Having the hidden phisicality stat is supposed to have an upside : your player makes more faults but will make his opponent foul him more often too. I must be really unlucky because my players with that stat always fouled out before their opponent. I sold two starters that were affected and my team was much better for a time, foul wise. But I have a starter now that I trained as a sub for a long time and that didn't really have an opportunity to show he had the stat. That's my problem with that hidden stat, one day you promote your guy to the starting position and he gets 4 fouls in the first half and only plays 10 minutes. At that point you're kinda f*****, your long term training project turns out to be a bust because of a hidden stat you had no idea he posessed.

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112386.11 in reply to 112386.10
Date: 9/23/2009 3:55:46 PM
Superhelden
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Well... if the physical play should be behind it I must be extremely unlucky...

57 League Minutes were enough for him (4566648) to commit 12 fouls. However it was not enough to get a single free throw.



Last edited by Superheld at 9/23/2009 3:56:05 PM