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116134.1
Date: 10/19/2009 5:25:02 PM
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I am training a player with star potential who is 21. Although he played for 8 weeks at least 48 minutes in the required position, he had no skill up. Is that normal? I am honestly not up to date what the average training speed of 21 year old player with star potential should be, but come on now 8 weeks!!!

Below I give you the basic stats of the player and his weekly stats of the last weeks. I am pretty sure that I trained Outside Shooting all the time. It may be that I trained Jump Shot in the first 1-2 weeks.

Manuel López (6884046)
Age: 21
Potential: Star

Jump Shot: sensational
Jump Range: prolific


Season 10 - week 5
64 PG - Outside Shooting for PG/SG

Season 10 - week 4
65 PG - Outside Shooting for PG/SG

Season 10 - week 3
51 PG - Outside Shooting for PG/SG

Season 10 - week 2
72 PG - Outside Shooting for PG/SG

Season 10 - week 1
70 PG - Outside Shooting for PG/SG

Season 9 - 3rd play off week
stamina

Season 9 - 2nd play off week
71 PG - Outside Shooting for PG/SG

Season 9 - 1st play off week
77 PG - Outside Shooting for PG/SG

Season 9 - week before play offs
66 PG - Outside Shooting for PG/SG

Season 9 - week minus 9
skill up in Jump Shot

Season 9 - week minus 10
skill up in Jump Range

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116134.2 in reply to 116134.1
Date: 10/19/2009 5:33:35 PM
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Without seeing the other skills, I'm betting he hit his potential cap, and is going to train slower than molasses.

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116134.4 in reply to 116134.3
Date: 10/19/2009 11:15:41 PM
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I have two 27 year old capped players getting training minutes.

So I think the answer is yes.

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A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
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116134.5 in reply to 116134.2
Date: 10/20/2009 4:15:58 PM
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what exactly is the potential cap? is it maximum for a player's total skill points? or is sensational the potential cap for players with potential star?


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116134.6 in reply to 116134.2
Date: 10/20/2009 4:24:20 PM
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Or the better question, what shall I do with him? Train him until he raises at least Jump Shot and Jump Range once more (after all the weeks of training I invested here). Or shall I stop training him immediately, cause he most likely will never raise any skills again?

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116134.8 in reply to 116134.7
Date: 10/23/2009 1:58:30 PM
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are there indications or something like a rule of thumb whether my player has reched its cap. it is really frustrating, that he didn't receive a skill up after 10 full weeks of training.

star is a pretty average potential and 21 is still quite young. i've trained players with the potential all star at the age of 21 way higher than that guy.

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116134.10 in reply to 116134.9
Date: 10/24/2009 11:02:33 PM
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Allstars typically cap out at about $50,000.



That is wrong. There are 50 players on the TL at this moment with all-star potential and wages over 50k per week (including on at 92k). There are three on my team, two of whom will be over 70k next season.

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116134.11 in reply to 116134.10
Date: 10/25/2009 7:34:58 AM
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Being capped doesn't mean the player won't improve anymore, the training will just slow down considerably. Also improvement at higher skills add a lot to salary, which means getting 2 pops or something over the 50k mark will take your player to 70k or more.
So yes, it's indeed possible there are a lot of players with allstar potential and 50k+ salary, but a small part of them was trained before the BBs introduced potential or was trained at the higher multiplied training speeds even before potential was introduced, and the other part of them just trained considerably slower after hitting the cap, but did improve.

The allstar cap surely is around 50k. (maybe a few K less or more). A perfect example is this player;

Ziv Shpigler(4192663)

Weekly salary:
$ 48 281
DMI: 486500
Age: 23
Height: 6'9" / 206 cm
Potential: allstar *
Game Shape: proficient

Jump Shot: proficient Jump Range: atrocious
Outside Def.: awful Handling: inept
Driving: proficient Passing: inept
Inside Shot: wondrous Inside Def.: tremendous
Rebounding: sensational Shot Blocking: mediocre
Stamina: mediocre Free Throw: inept
Experience: awful

As you see at the salary update he got exactly 48k, just under the cap. At the 1st training in the season he double popped IS and ID, getting him above 50k.

After that I wanted to squeeze another ID pop out of this guy, to increase his value a lot before selling him. This took me 7 weeks (!)

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 10/25/2009 12:05:16 PM