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122890.1
Date: 12/15/2009 7:17:07 AM
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This is my first season and I just wanted to know what people think of this first round draft. I know I could spend hours looking up other drafts and eventually get a feel, but instead I thought I would just ask. These are the players from the first round.
Salary Age Potential
2261 19 2
2489 18 3
2191 19 5
2804 19 2
5214 19 7
2586 18 2 Name Johncock Oscar, wow!
2193 19 2
2362 19 5
5363 18 6
4647 18 2
2992 19 2
1882 19 6
3284 19 10 (me!)
3732 19 7
5261 19 8
3348 18 7 (my mentor)

As you can see there are only 4 guys with a high salary and only 5 with high potential. Only 2 have both and they are 19. Were we unlucky (or even lucky, some will no-doubt think this is good) or is this typical?

Last edited by abigfishy at 12/15/2009 7:20:16 AM

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122890.3 in reply to 122890.1
Date: 12/15/2009 9:55:56 AM
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your draft is relatively bad, the best draft i had seen is the one of my league this season:
(all salarys rounded)

3.200 18 4
5.000 18 10
4.000 18 10
5.800 18 6
3.600 18 10
4.400 18 9
5.500 18 6
3.500 18 7
4.700 19 1
4.300 18 4
4.000 19 5
4.000 18 5
4.000 19 6
4.100 18 6
3.900 18 4
4.400 18 4 (retired?!)

i don't think that you can top this soon ;)

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122890.4 in reply to 122890.3
Date: 12/15/2009 10:29:51 AM
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In case someone is doing a study:

19 3 3744 PF
18 5 2088 PF
19 2 2089 PG
19 2 3175 SG
18 4 3200 SF
19 2 1934 C
18 5 2366 C
19 4 3563 SG
18 3 2067 SG
18 2 2888 PF
18 9 6241 PF
19 4 2768 PG
18 3 3171 PF
19 2 2011 C
18 4 2862 C
19 6 4732 C

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122890.5 in reply to 122890.4
Date: 12/15/2009 10:34:55 AM
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i think for a study you should use the full list, because inactive "drafters" and different draft spending make a big different in draft behaviour.

So i could say that your pick 3 and 4 not get draftet in the first round, from active managers ;) And those guy with the high potential PF with 6200$ salary was lucky about this inactive opposition, i think^^

I just want to pose with our special draft result ;)

Last edited by CrazyEye at 12/15/2009 10:35:15 AM

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122890.6 in reply to 122890.5
Date: 12/15/2009 10:54:04 AM
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Actually, I was the only human involved in this draft and I drafted last.

Additionally, I did not recognize the importance of scouting until about 3 weeks into the season so did not have info
on all players (that PF, for instance)

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122890.7 in reply to 122890.6
Date: 12/15/2009 1:34:26 PM
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Allright then, I think I'm gonna do an analysis myself of American Div V drafts for season 10

Format would be based on the following that I got for my own draft:

# 18: 23
# 19: 25

Positions were dispersed as follows:

PG 11
SG 13
SF 3
PF 8
C 13

Potentials went from bench warmer to MVP with the following dispersion:

bench warmer 6
role player 8
6th man 4
starter 11
star 10
allstar 3
perennial allstar 3
superstar 2
MVP 1

Avg. Potential: 4.00

Salaries were dispersed thusly:

1-2 K: 4
2-3 K: 23
3-4 K: 12
4-5 K: 7
5-6 K: 1
>6 K: 1

HIGH SAL: $6241
LOW SAL: $1313
AVG SAL: $3038

and so on with potential and salary breakdowns for each age and position

2 Questions:

Is doing this worthwhile or just a way to kill some time?

If it is worth doing, would 10 drafts be enough or would I have to go 20?

I would only be analyzing Level V American Leagues and try to get a reasonable mix of bot-filled and active human leagues?

EDIT: Almost forgot. I would put all data on a publicly published Google Docs spreadsheet so anyone could check it out


Last edited by drencrom68 at 12/15/2009 1:35:36 PM

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122890.8 in reply to 122890.7
Date: 12/15/2009 2:59:41 PM
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For CBBA was the worse draft by far. Usually we where able to get a decent player from there, at least the majority of the teams. This season is just awful. Looks like in Cyprus in general the draft is pretty poor compared to other seasons. I am closed to the NT managers so i have a clear idea from every seasons draft.

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122890.9 in reply to 122890.3
Date: 12/15/2009 5:11:02 PM
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when the best team in a country recieve these very good players... no wonder Germany will have the best u21 team in 2 seasons..

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122890.10 in reply to 122890.9
Date: 12/15/2009 5:25:13 PM
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three, we didn't scouted the other leagues yet, but normally you have that bunch of talent in 3-5 leagues not in one ;)

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122890.11 in reply to 122890.7
Date: 12/15/2009 6:05:36 PM
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Hope this helps. I just like to crunch numbers and I was really curious about the relationships and how well our division drafted.

USA Div III.4

19x 18-yrs
29x 19-yrs

PG x15 (High-6 $4018, Low-48 $1360, Avg $2812)
SG x7 (High-5 $4196, Low-46 $1615, Avg $3175)
SF x9 (High-3 $4224, Low-43 $1780, Avg $2715)
PF x11 (High-1 $4724, Low-42 $1792, Avg $2990)
C x6 (High-2 $4699, Low-47 $1564, $Avg $2580)

Announcer x0
Bench Warmer x11
Role Player x7
6th Man x6
Starter x3
Star x10
AllStar x6
Perennial AllStar x2
Superstar x1
MVP x0
Hall of Famer x2
All Time Great x0

High Salary: $4,724
Low Salary: $1,360
Avg Salary: $2,859
Standard Dev: $889
Z-Scores: 2.10 to -1.69

USA Division III.4 is an Active All-Human Controlled Division. However, not all poured money into the draft as our league likes the transfer list.

Here's how our draft played out:

First Round:
None Retired
1st Pick: PF, $1984, Superstar
Best Pick: C, $4699, Hall of Famer, #2 Pick
Worst Pick: SF, $1780, 6th Man, #5 Pick
Avg Salary: $3620

13 of the 1st-Tier Salaried Players were drafted in the 1st Round (Avg Salary $3974)
1 of the 2nd-Tier Salaried Players was drafted in the 1st Round (Avg Salary $2504)
2 of the 3rd-Tier Salaried Players was drafted in the 1st Round (Avg Salary $1882)

Second Round:
4 Retired (1x Starter, 1x All Star, 2x Bench Warmers, Avg Salary $2853)
Best Pick: 19-yr SG, $3679, AllStar (RETIRED), #25 Pick
Worst Pick: 19-yr SG, $1615, Bench Warmer, #22 Pick
Avg Salary: $2848

3 of the 1st-Tier Salaried Players were drafted in the 2nd Round (Avg Salary $3583), 2 of which are retired
11 of the 2nd-Tier Salaried Players were drafted in the 2nd Round (Avg Salary $2859), 1 of which is retired
2 of the 3rd-Tier Salaried Players were drafted in the 2nd Round (Avg Salary $1682), 1 of which is retired

Third Round:
9 Retired (1x Perennial AllStar, 1x Star, 2x 6th Man, 2x Role Players, 3x Bench Warmers, Avg Salary $2163)
Best Pick: 18-yr PG, $2810, Role Player (RETIRED), #36 Pick
Worst Pick: 19-yr PG, $1360, Bench Warmer (RETIRED), #43 Pick
48th Pick: 19-yr PG, $2291, Star (RETIRED), 33rd highest salary
Avg Salary: $2107

0 of the 1st-Tier Salaried Players was drafted in the 3rd Round
4 of the 2nd-Tier Salaried Players was drafted in the 3rd Round (Avg Salary $2589), 2 of which are retired
12 of the 3rd-Tier Salaried Players was drafted in the 3rd Round (Avg Salary $1946), 7 of which are retired