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I have a bunch of spare time in those days and not in a party mood so I made some analysis regarding player salaries. We don't see other's player stats unless transfer listed so salary is still the best indicator of player quality. I ranked the teams according to their salaries per player. Total salary rankings can be misleading since teams use 10 to 16 player rotations making comparison inaccurate. Besides salary per player also is a good indicator of roster depth unless you spend all your money for one player.

But just to let you know, the team with the biggest salary expense is Illusion with a 196,711 per week. Smallest salary expense belongs to Cresleys with 91,219. Highest paid player of our league is Ryszard Bumbul of Dragons. 71.240 per week. Cheapest player award goes to Carlos Guy of the Bangers with only 1,453 per week.

To be more meaningful I ranked the salary per player as a percentage of the highest spending team- which is again Illusion.

Team Name Weekly Salary Per Player
Illusion 16,393 (100%)
Booshers 14,724 (89.82%)
Tachenko 14,153 (86.34%)
Gavno 13,173 (80.36%)
Magic 13,163 (80.30%)
Flyers 13,049 (79.60%)
Dragons 12,899 (78.69%)
Hawks 12,007 (73.25%)
Bangers 9,236 (56.34%)
Goats 8,399 (51.24%)
Steppers 8,309 (50,69%)
Cleveland 8,129 (49,59%)
Rip City 7,615 (46.45%)
Investors 7,148 (43.61%)
Knicks 6,552 (39.97%)
Cresleys 6,516 (39.75%)

This is interesting I do ok for being in the low end of the salary world. I have a friend who always tells me BB is a marathon not a sprint. Many of my guys I have had and trained for awhile hence the dominant number of American players which is difficult in the game to keep around. It is however nice to take home the 76k in merchandising which nearly pays for my staff by itself. With that being said I am waiting for the right moment to add another big man which will push my salary per up a bit. Thanks for the analysis it is interesting.

By the way for being ranked 8th you have a great team.

Part of the reason I have such a high average salary is because my center Avalos and sf Briand are being payed more than they deserve, especially Briand whos only talent is shooting. Another reason, which is probably the bigger reason is because I only have 12 players at the moment. Beware of the illusion because next season im upgrading both my pg postion (heavily needed) and sf position (maybe, it depends on how well my backup sf trains this season).

Thanks for the info. I love looking at stuff like this but I don't have the attention to detail to pull it all together, so thanks for doing it.

Interesting observation: Dragons. What's the story? Are they just bloated with a lot of players? Are they poised to make a late season run and have been tanking thus far? Sitting at #7 in salaries, I'm wondering why they're not at least lucking into a few wins here and there.

Interesting observation: Dragons. What's the story? Are they just bloated with a lot of players? Are they poised to make a late season run and have been tanking thus far? Sitting at #7 in salaries, I'm wondering why they're not at least lucking into a few wins here and there.

I think the problem with them is one player gets the 55% of all salary expense. This guy-Bumbul- is the league leader in scoring over Mina you mentioned in another post I guess. But I am with you on this one, with an NBBA level guard they should have won a few games.

my two cents - It's a team game. it took Jordan 5 years to figure that out, but once he started passing the ball and the Bulls started adding guys who could at least play a role, the team took off. It's a marathon all-right, and developing players is the best part of this game. If I am not competing for a top spot in 2 seasons in Div II, then I'll blow it up and start again by buying a group of young trainees and work my way back up. Look at the Hawks, they are well rounded and dominating. Crazy's are doing the right thing too. Get a game plan and stick with it. Balancing minutes, American players, etc.. it all goes together and is tough to manage. Regardless, great discussions! Glad I check in occasionally.

you are doing great on 2nd division. that encourages us.

IVd like to take my player rankings using the hollinger game score and hawk,s salary analysis and calculate who's getting the most out of what they are paying for. this is some great work.

Thanks. I have a very tough second half and now a bad cup matchup. I thought I had a shot to challenge for 4th, but I think it will good if I can finish 6th.

Just doing a follow up. I have compiled all of the Hollinger Game Scores through the latest games (Season 11, Week 10, Game 2) and have managed to compile a list of all players that are currently on rosters for League III.4 as well as included any players that have played at least 1 game for League III.4. The data you are about to see is only for Salaries and does not include the study on Hollinger Game Scores and Salaries yet since I only compiled all of the salaries today.

If I run out of space, I'll create another post in response.

Age Group Comparison
Group A includes all players ages 18-22 {ripe for training
Group B includes all players ages 23-27 {aged but still trainable
Group C includes all players ages 28-32 {reached their peak, might see a bump
Group D includes all players ages 33+ {old timers, most likely untrainable, rare cases of +bumps can be seen

Comparions Include
USA vs Foreign
North American vs Others
Singular Positions {PG, SG, SF, PF, C --- based on BB Suggested Position, not actual positions
Group Positions {Guards, Wing, Forwards, Bigs, Point Centers --- based on BB Suggested Positon, not actual positions

+All Salaries are an average of the group


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Age Group Comparison
Group A: 8,025
Group B: 15,477
Group C: 14,778
Group D: 4,521

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USA vs Foregin

USA: 10,286
Foreign: 13,042

USA
Group A: 7,496
Group B: 13,711
Group C: 10,106
Group D: 3,342

Foreign
Group A: 8,534
Group B: 17,170
Group C: 17,964
Group D: 4,689

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North America vs Others

North America: 10,390
Others: 12,991

North American
Group A: 7,526
Group B: 13,711
Group C: 10,946
Group D: 3,342

Others
Group A: 8,124
Group B: 15,821
Group C: 15,424
Group D: 4,572

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Singular Position Comparison
Point Guards
Group A: 7,776
Group B: 13,378
Group C: 5,511
Group D: 3,744

Shooting Guards
Group A: 7,560
Group B: 15,887
Group C: 8,258
Group D: 5,281

Small Forwards
Group A: 7,457
Group B: 15,887
Group C: 8,258
Group D: 5,281

Power Forwards
Group A: 6,238
Group B: 14,400
Group C: 8,831
Group D: 3,842

Centers
Group A: 10,277
Group B: 15,692
Group C: 29,105
Group D: 6,666

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Group Positions
Guards {PG, SG
Group A: 7,663
Group B: 15,875
Group C: 8,906
Group D: 4,134

Wings {SG, SF
Group A: 7,507
Group B: 16,927
Group C: 9,220
Group D: 5,294

Forwards {SF, PF
Group A: 7,040
Group B: 14,978
Group C: 8,497
Group D: 4,321

Bigs {PF, C
Group A: 8,858
Group B: 15,124
Group C: 22,769
Group D: 4,783

Point Center {PG, C
Group A: 9,081
Group B: 14,124
Group C: 24,049
Group D: 4,474

Last edited by kaygdanimal at 2/25/2010 5:14:40 PM

A couple of facts I found from my research:

* Of the 247 players that are currently on League III.4 rosters or have previously played the minimum of 1 game in League III.4, their are 115 USA-born players compared to 132 Foreign-born players.

* Foreign players in our league are being payed significantly higher than USA players, which is rather ironic considering that fans are supposed to dish out more for ticket sales and merchendise when they get a chance to see the players of their country. This tells me 1 of 2 things: USA players are playing below the standards or USA teams are generating far more revenue than that of teams on foreign soil and therefore have the means to pluck the rich talent from other countries.

* Rip City is the most diverse squad in all of League III.4 which includes the fact that not a single member on his team is USA-born. That does not mean he has never played a USA-born player on his team this season. Out of the 23 players he has has given a contract to, 3 of them were USA-born. Out of the 23 players that have been given any sort of money this season by Rip City, he has fielded 16 different countries.

Last edited by kaygdanimal at 2/25/2010 5:18:24 PM