BuzzerBeater Forums

Help - English > training questions

training questions

Set priority
Show messages by
From: zyler
This Post:
00
134991.1
Date: 3/16/2010 5:57:50 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
217217
ok could some one try to answers these please.

1, how long is the season in weeks including playoff weeks ?

2, whats the avg amount of pops per player 4 each position (1 pos training/lv 5 trainer) ?

3, what would be the max amount of pops per player position?

thank you

This Post:
00
134991.2 in reply to 134991.1
Date: 3/16/2010 6:21:23 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
522522
1. About 14 weeks by my count.

2. I don't understand what you mean...

3. Also don't understand what you mean...

Sorry

But in general, it is very hard to give an average, because it is very much dependant on what you are training. Stamina takes 1 week, Jump Range takes about 3 weeks. It all varies.

Also, I don't know why there would be a max amount of pops per player position. You could have 20+ pops for an 18 year old in 1 season if you get lucky and depending on what you train.

Or I might have misinterpreted what you meant :)

This Post:
00
134991.3 in reply to 134991.2
Date: 3/16/2010 6:41:27 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
217217
in 2 and 3 i mean , can a center (or any other position) get more pops then say a guard (or any other position) in 1 season if both are trained well?

i dont count stamina or free throws as pops by the way , though i do know there important to a degree.

from average from what i have seen most people get between 8-10 pops a season

max pops a season seems to be 16-18 i think.

hoping someone else has this info or can give there thoughts.

This Post:
00
134991.4 in reply to 134991.3
Date: 3/16/2010 6:51:55 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
522522
No position gets trained faster than any other. It is all dependant on the skill that you are training. Other factors such as height etc are obviously going to affect the rate at which pop ups occur. If you have a look at the Training Speed Analysis thread, that will give you an idea of how long each skill takes to pop. So in that sense you could add up the time for 1 pop on each of the main skills for a center and compare that to the time for 1 pop on each of the main skills for a shooting guard and compare. I think that's what you are asking...

I would say 10 pops for a Center or PF in inside skills is good for a season. For a guard I would say 13-15 is good for a season in their outside skills. Obviously a large portion of those 15 pops might be due to one-on-one training.

This Post:
00
134991.5 in reply to 134991.4
Date: 3/16/2010 7:07:54 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
217217
13-15 pops is alot more then 10 pops.

so it would seem gaurds get more pops a season then forwards which is sort of what i was asking lol

This Post:
00
134991.6 in reply to 134991.5
Date: 3/16/2010 7:22:56 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
522522
Well not exactly. If you had a center with good inside skills already and wanted to train secondaries, you could probably get 13 pops because training one-on-one gets you a lot of pops. But for a guard, if you spend time training Jump Range, it takes a long time to pop, so you won't get many pops in a season.

This Post:
00
134991.7 in reply to 134991.6
Date: 3/16/2010 9:41:41 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
237237
Not really. If your C is very tall then trying to train your secondaries could take a very long time and it is not likel you will get 13 pops from one on one training

Last edited by Monkeybiz at 3/16/2010 9:42:16 PM

This Post:
00
134991.8 in reply to 134991.7
Date: 3/17/2010 2:12:46 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
55
There was a guy in another thread who claimed his guy had 6 pops in 8 weeks in OD but normally skills like that take 2-3 weeks per pop. Some skills like driving and handling go up together very fast so you could expect one of these to pop almost every week if you are training things like handling and 1 on 1.

This Post:
00
134991.9 in reply to 134991.8
Date: 3/17/2010 4:03:22 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
237237
That may be true if you have a lvl 5 trainer doing 1 position training focusing on pressure and with a 18 year old short trainee.

What I am saying is that don't expect these pops to go up as quickly if you are trying to do these training on a 7'0 C as height will slow his training down quite significantly

This Post:
00
134991.10 in reply to 134991.9
Date: 3/17/2010 4:21:16 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
522522
I definitely agree that height would slow you down, but the point I was trying to illustrate is that if you ignore height, a center can be trained in guard skills and receive just as many pops as a guard. So it's not really that guard skills train faster, its more than One-on-one pops really quickly which is a guard skill and so it might seem like guards get more pops, but a center would get a good number of pops if they trained one-on-one as well for a while.

I definitely think you can get 13 pops at least with an 18 year old trainee and just a level 4 trainer. As long as the height is decent, one-on-one training is surprisingly quick at training driving and handling, and it trains multiple other things as well. If you had some high sublevels you could very easily do it.

This Post:
00
134991.11 in reply to 134991.9
Date: 3/17/2010 4:21:18 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
522522
I definitely agree that height would slow you down, but the point I was trying to illustrate is that if you ignore height, a center can be trained in guard skills and receive just as many pops as a guard. So it's not really that guard skills train faster, its more than One-on-one pops really quickly which is a guard skill and so it might seem like guards get more pops, but a center would get a good number of pops if they trained one-on-one as well for a while.

I definitely think you can get 13 pops at least with an 18 year old trainee and just a level 4 trainer. As long as the height is decent, one-on-one training is surprisingly quick at training driving and handling, and it trains multiple other things as well. If you had some high sublevels you could very easily do it.