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I would suggest to tax any player on the transfer list that does not sell. I have seen a lot of the same players listed constantly for a month now. Usually they are listed way above their transfer value (yes transfer values are dropping constantly at the moment).
Paying same as the sale tax of the suggested player would be too high probably, but 1% would be decent in my book. Every time you list a player for 1mil and he does not sell, then you pay 10000 after the deadline. If the player is sold normal % base tax will be applied.
Transfer list should be for selling players, not for fishing that one misclick or a new user.

Great proposal.

It also helps against day traders as they run the risk of players not selling above the value they want.

If you were genuine about wanting to sell a player you could list him at $1 and market forces will push the transfer value to what he is worth.

If you were genuine about wanting to sell a player you could list him at $1 and market forces will push the transfer value to what he is worth.

Tthat doesn't always work. Right after the draft (a week later) I put up an 18 year old with 4k+ salary and superstar potential for 1k. A few minutes before the deadline he was on 20k. There is no way that is the market value for such a player so I was forced to buy him back.

But as for the suggestion, I like it. However, I have seen players put on the TL for something like 15 million, now I am assuming that they either made a mistake and put on an extra zero, or they are just letting people see the stats of the player. Either way this suggestion would cause this too be severely punished I think. If you are trying to sell a player that for 1 million, and accidentally set the price to 10 million then it just cost you 100k in tax fees as it won't sell. I suppose this would make people take more care, but that is the only 2 reasons I can think of to not have this.

Actually just thought of another, managers will be less inclined to put players on sale during off peak hours as there is less chance they will be sold and more chance of them getting taxed, and you could argue they could put the transfer price lower and it will sell, but chances are it is already going to sell for lower as it is during off peak hours.

Well market value is what it is worth at that point in time. Not what you THINK its worth.

With the sudden influx of supply of young players right after the draft, there will be some that are not worth as much as you initially think its worth. As you realised, avoiding this influx, by transfer listing him 1-2 weeks later, you got a much better deal for him. It is not a matter of market forces not working but more a fact that market forces changes over time to reflect the correct demand and supply at that time

If the price is right the player will always be sold.
Showing skills can be done by forum post. No need to put him on the transfer list.
You should take extra care when putting any player on the transfer list. Inserting extra 0 to the price is just careless (you even have to confirm it).
I do not know your rookies height or skills. But if he was at 20k then there were prolly better players being sold at the same time. Buying your own player back is even worse than paying tax for noone buying him.

With this 10k fine would be punished teams which are selling low-value players, because 10k from 200k is way bigger cut that 10k from 2M.

Im also for solving that problem, but it should be something which will be adequate for wide range of players, otherwise would be most perspective to do 1 phase training and try to figure out price for 1-XXM more like before.

Last edited by aigidios at 4/14/2010 8:02:47 AM

??? Did you even understand the suggestion? We are talking about 1% tax when player does not sell.
200k = 2000 tax. 2mil = 20000 tax.

Oh sorry, I didnt read that so well.

I know market value is not what I think it is worth, but what I was saying was that I am sure that an 18 year old with superstar potential and great stats is NEVER worth 20k. And I was selling him a week after the draft (I think), and sold him less than a week later for 10 times the amount. Maybe it was purely market value changing dramastically, or maybe it was just that there weren't many people online at the time and so it was selling for less, or some other reason. All I'm saying is that putting up a player at 1k isn't always going to sell at the price that player is worth, for example a player sold during off peak is probably going to sell for less than the same player listed during peak hours on the same day.

I just did a search for players over 10 million listed on the transfer market and there were about 15 players. Now I don't know why they are listed for that price, but I'm sure they have their reasons. If they are legitimate reasons, then this tax would stop them doing this. (Again I don't know why they do it so I can't give the reason).

I agree that people should take care when listing their price. However, new players might not know the right price to list a player, so might list very high prices initially and be taxed a lot of money and will probably plead ignorance about the tax.

I can't remember the rookies height but his skills were fairly good. There might have been better players than him on the transfer list, but all I'm saying is that I think he is worth a lot more than 20k, and there was no way I was going to let him get sold for 20k.
You say buying your own player back is even worse than paying tax for noone buying him, but that wasn't an option for me. I listed the rookie at 1k, at the deadline he was at a price that I considered far below his true value, and so I was happy to lose a thousand or 2 to buy the player back. Paying tax is only relevant if there is no bid on him.

Perhaps new users could use the transfer price estimate or have new users free of tax for four weeks (just the same amount of time they get the extra income).
I'm not judging your player sale. I just said you would have payed that 2k (for listing 200k and not selling) instead % of tax you payed after buying him back.