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From: ig
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Date: 4/27/2010 6:02:01 AM
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Hi all.

I wonder why there is no money got from attendance in cup games, besides (or at least instead of) the static revenue of $50K in most rounds? In the real world, cup games gain a lot, especially to the small teams when they have the opportunity to face big ones. It should be splitted between both teams, either equally or like in playoffs (2/3 for home team and 1/3 for visitors).

From: Inchizitie

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Date: 4/27/2010 6:22:54 AM
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Back in the day it was as you suggested, 2/3 for the home team and 1/3 for the visitors, but it got changed for some reasons. I think it was around season 5 if I'm not mistaken.

From: CrazyEye

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Date: 4/27/2010 6:47:01 AM
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Hi all.

I wonder why there is no money got from attendance in cup games, besides (or at least instead of) the static revenue of $50K in most rounds? In the real world, cup games gain a lot, especially to the small teams when they have the opportunity to face big ones. It should be splitted between both teams, either equally or like in playoffs (2/3 for home team and 1/3 for visitors).


in germany(RL) they give up the cup, because it don't generate money at all and replaced it with a tounament of the best clubs of the first league and many other countrys in europe make the same step in the past because it don't generate that much money.

But the problem here was that you can not combine that with the draw, if i had a homegame i would generate 550k(1/3 ~ 180k) if i play away i maybe my opponent could generate 120k(i get 40k) with a even taffer competion ;) So the difference betewen a home and away draw would be huge, and could affect heavily the competion(also for the small teams who could lost at my place, where other teams in their league need 5 round to make the same money).

From: rcvaz

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Date: 4/27/2010 9:18:23 AM
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Yeah, I agree that there is a big disparity. For instance, if a div V team plays at your place that's a big revenue that gives them an advantage over the other teams in the division. But in real life that happens, so if they were to implement it we would just have to live with it.

In some soccer cups they have a rule which would reduce the revenue disparity, which is that the team from a lower division always plays at home. If it's fair or not, we can argue. But I understand that many of the top teams don't have that much interest in the cup

From: CrazyEye

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Date: 4/27/2010 9:27:45 AM
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Yeah, I agree that there is a big disparity. For instance, if a div V team plays at your place that's a big revenue that gives them an advantage over the other teams in the division. But in real life that happens, so if they were to implement it we would just have to live with it.

In some soccer cups they have a rule which would reduce the revenue disparity, which is that the team from a lower division always plays at home. If it's fair or not, we can argue. But I understand that many of the top teams don't have that much interest in the cup


it was also very unfair in the top divisions, if you meet a top team in the early rounds one of them will loose contact to the other teams becaomes a few rounds make millions of extra profit other plays succesful but maybe have streaks of 6-7 away games without real income where the others maybe had the luck of two bots on home to make the same money.

So the cup income still make a big impact on the weekly income, but don't become dominating and it stays comparable to your succes and not on your luck or bad luck if you have a home or away game.

From: rcvaz

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Date: 4/27/2010 10:47:37 AM
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Yeah, I imagine that. I just mentioned the lower leagues because that's all I've experienced so far :P. The "higher division team plays away from home" would maybe even the field, but perhaps at the expense of other things.

As we've agreed, the cup is a delicate thing and I think the way things are works out fine. Another idea would be having a cup for "higher leagues" and another for "lower leagues". It might be more competitive and allow for more desirable revenues, but may bring different issues. It's just a thought, I'm not sure myself it would be a better way to go. Cheers