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142866.1
Date: 5/4/2010 12:20:06 PM
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Haven't you yet realized that in the last weeks games have been simulating over and over again????
Today I was watching my game live and the score was 13-13... then the match viewer stopped and started again on 9-19 for my opponent!

This is a hell of a bug, something for which it is worth quitting this game. Please do something about it!

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142866.2 in reply to 142866.1
Date: 5/4/2010 12:36:20 PM
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I did 3 different screenshots of 3 different scores in my today's match.

1) (http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/617/screen1d.jpg) 14-2 (6'19 1st quarter)
2) (http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5615/screen2hup.jpg) 15-6 (6'28 1st quarter) (impossible comparing to the first one: in 9 seconds I'd have lost 1 point and my opponent'd have lost 4 too)
3) It is (I suppose) the correct one on the scoreboard now: (http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5954/screen3a.jpg) 15-11 (2'37 1st quarter) (It was a few minutes down, so I can't screenshot the same minutes than the 2 above) (This is also impossible comparing to the other 2, because I have the same score than the second but scoring some baskets between 6th and 2nd minutes)


From: ned

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142866.3 in reply to 142866.1
Date: 5/4/2010 12:49:27 PM
Freccia Azzurra
IV.18
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Slaytanic
Someone got 1 ball to you, I added 5 cause I love your smell
Very bad bug but don't worry you'll lose today, the only thing not sure is how many times you'll lose (I think 4 times...) :p

1990-2022 Stalinorgel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV-Xppl6h8Et
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142866.4 in reply to 142866.1
Date: 5/4/2010 1:01:04 PM
1986 Celtics
IV.16
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Lets be clear.. there are two possible explanations for this kind of thing.

1. The matches are getting rerun

2. the match viewer is making a mistake in tallying up the score, and upon refresh is tallying it up in a different way.

Luckily its easy to tell the difference between these two possibilities... as you can see from the screenshots, the commentary suggests that at 6:44 there was a play involving exactly the same two players, and a rebound by the same player. This would be highly unlikely if the game were actually run multiple times.

That combined with how difficult it is to actually rerun a game, I am highly confident what we have here is a matchviewer bug of some kind, and is a display issue. Which should be fixed I agree... but not something which should cause anyone to doubt the integrity of the result.

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142866.5 in reply to 142866.4
Date: 5/4/2010 1:42:35 PM
Le Cotiche
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these seem to be different matches, as there are different results/players stats when the matches end

today i left my "fake" match (20454422) after a few minutes because i had something else to do, when i returned it was still running but i realized the simulation could be wrong (i already knew the problem exists, it has happened for all my matches in the last weeks) so i refreshed the page and the score obviously changed

before refreshing my player marien had already scored 22 points, now the "real" match has ended and he scored only 19

Last edited by mark_lenders at 5/4/2010 1:43:24 PM

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142866.6 in reply to 142866.4
Date: 5/5/2010 4:34:36 AM
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That combined with how difficult it is to actually rerun a game, I am highly confident what we have here is a matchviewer bug of some kind, and is a display issue. Which should be fixed I agree... but not something which should cause anyone to doubt the integrity of the result.

hopefully this is case, but personally I doubt it.
First, in my game stats were different, including fouls. Second, after the match viewer stops the "watch live" button disappears and the clock shows the time for the next game, as it happens when a game hasn't been simulated.

I am a bit disappointed that nobody reported this bug earlier. In the italian forum there was already a discussion about it in the past week, but yesterday was the first time I saw it with my eyes.

By the way, I renewed my supported a couple of days ago, so I am not about to quit yet :)

Last edited by Newton07 at 5/5/2010 4:35:30 AM

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142866.7 in reply to 142866.4
Date: 5/5/2010 4:48:51 AM
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i'm pretty sure that sadly it's option number 1
as you maybe know, when you set the lineup for NT games you can already see the weekly minutes of players once the simulation has happened. and yesterday i checked after every restart of the simulations, and got different weekly minutes every time for the players involved in the matches.

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142866.8 in reply to 142866.7
Date: 5/5/2010 6:48:53 PM
TrenseRI
II.1
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ChiLeaders
We will be watching out for the issue on saturday, and this time, if it happens, we will be ready. If anyone notices that it's happening again, bbmail me right away with a link or matchid of the game(s) in question.

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142866.9 in reply to 142866.1
Date: 5/8/2010 12:10:35 PM
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It's happening again, hope you are keeping an eye on it.

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142866.10 in reply to 142866.8
Date: 5/8/2010 12:11:28 PM
Le Cotiche
III.1
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it's happening again to my match (20454429)

i have it open in 4 tabs of the browser with 4 different results
in the 2 most recent ones no players are listed on the match viewer, only lucky fans and empty spots

the other matches of my league also continue to appear and disappear from the scoreboard

Last edited by mark_lenders at 5/8/2010 12:12:46 PM

From: ned

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142866.11 in reply to 142866.9
Date: 5/8/2010 12:11:49 PM
Freccia Azzurra
IV.18
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Slaytanic
But it happens only in Italy this very bad bug???

1990-2022 Stalinorgel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV-Xppl6h8Et