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Date: 6/29/2010 5:08:22 PM
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Might be a really, really stupid suggestion, because it might be hard to implement, and not very relevant, or interesting for that matter, for most (and so far it is not very thought-through either, so I am not even sure if I think it is a good suggestion myself, yet). Or it might have been suggeste before. But I came to think about the following:

Let us say that if I

1) were to change my training completely from big to small guys or the other way around, and wanted to get rid of all the guys that I was done training at once, and wanted to be sure about getting them all out for a decent price and at the same time or keep them and train them all for another week (all or none) (could be worth a slight discount for me as a seller…).
2) Or, even, if I was selling a good prospect, and I also had these bad players that I wanted to dispose of, worth only some 100K each, I could bundle them up, and sell them as one piece. Would perhaps not be so attractive for the buyer, but for the seller it would be nice?
3) Or, if I were to clean up my squad, I could bundle many bad players, and make a decent package of it, which I would sell fairly cheap. Could be interesting for lower league clubs to pick up perhaps?

This would make the transfer market a bit more unpredictable, and fun, and you would perhaps get rid of some of the, sometimes, stupid bidding wars for single players. Also, you could see some cool trades going through, with mega-stars, role-players and bench players being sold in one. Would perhaps be more realistic, and at least a bit closer to the trades we see in real basketball? I think it would add something, the vast majority of sales would still be single player sales, of course, but it would be a nice addition, perhaps.

What do you think? The thought surely needs to be polished, but just wanted to see what people think about the basic idea of bundling.

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149479.2 in reply to 149479.1
Date: 6/29/2010 5:16:16 PM
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It would make searching the transfer list impossibly complicated.

1) If you want your players to sell all at once then put them all up at reasonable starting prices.
2) I have serious doubts about the net value of the bundled transfer actually increasing. Is a package of a good normally 2.6m player packed with a useless 100k hump really going to sell for 2.8m? If not then then why not just sell them seperately? This would also be maddening for buyers who will then be responsible for flipping or firing a whole pack of useless players. (the more likely result is that people will simply not bid on packages, leaving us exactly where we are now but with people complaining about their fan survey sucking because they keep trying to push terrible package deals)
3) There's no reason why you can't just sell all your bad players at the same time so long as you start the players at a decent price. For truly bad players you're more likely to find five separate people with $50k to burn on terrible players than person willing to drop $250k on five terrible players.

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149479.3 in reply to 149479.2
Date: 6/29/2010 5:37:21 PM
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I believe my point wasn't really made very clear - I am not expecting the bundling to give the sellers any premium to selling the players one by one, it is an easy, fire-sale kind of way; get much out - fast, and give buyers the possibility to buy players at a discount.

1) Yes, this I know. But the key here, is "all or none", and I want to secure a decent price for - lets say all three prospects, and it would be valuable for me if I didn't need to pay all their salary for another week, and also that I could change my training fast. Not sure if anyone would take all three, but then I would rather want to keep them.
2) This was a bad example, and I agree - it would probably not be that interesting for someone to buy Kobe if he was bundled up with a limp, half blind PG.
3) Maybe not the best example either, I guess. But again, lets say that you are selling your "old crew", some backups, some starters, and bundle them up... Ahhh, no, doesn't make sence. I will stop writing now.

Haha, I know. This is just silly. Forget it, I can't even argue for my own suggestion.

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149479.4 in reply to 149479.3
Date: 6/29/2010 7:22:53 PM
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Any other lawyers on here? I feel the need to make a Sherman Act joke...

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Date: 6/30/2010 12:35:29 AM
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Does Law Student count :P

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149479.6 in reply to 149479.4
Date: 6/30/2010 3:41:00 AM
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Why would this be antitrust? I am not a lawyer, but a mere trader, and do not understand american antitrust law at all, but this would not restraint trade, or lead to attempts to monopolize bb, would it? Top NBA-teams also bundle up players and ship them of to Charlotte or New Orleans, in exchange for single players, draft picks or cash that is, not only cash as in this instance. This is not out of line with Sherman, is it?

Hehe, but, I know this wasn't the best idea, so, please, make the joke (or explain how it all works), and get it over with and out of your system Bottom line is, the transfer system in this game feels a bit dull at times, and it would be nice if there were more facetts to it, if you ask me.

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149479.8 in reply to 149479.6
Date: 6/30/2010 11:38:22 AM
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I'll spare you the joke

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tying_%28commerce%29#Tying_i...)

I'm guessing it wouldn't fly for the same reason that film studios are no longer allowed to predicate the purchase of their big blockbusters on the purchase of a bunch of smaller, less popular titles. But then, this is BB not real life...

(http://abovethelaw.com/2010/06/clock-ticks-towards-nba-co...)

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