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I know I might be coming a bit strong but has anyone observed faults in the game engine regarding how realistic it is? Why am I saying this? I have been playing the game since season 7 and maybe its just me but I sense there is a lot of difference between the reality score outline and the game engines one. I have observed games between thunder teams going point by point until the last quarter where the home team suddenly goes into frenzy and makes a score 25-3 or so in 6 minutes by missing nearly no basket. Is this possible? I have been playing second division basketball nearly all my life and believe me I might have seen this only once between very low calibur teams.
I mean to me it looks really bad. Why not make the game engine spread the difference threw out the 4 quarters to be more realistic?
I mean 1rst quarter lets say 20-25
2nd 18-28
3rd 19-19
4rth 30-20

instead of making a score line something like this
1rst 10-12
2nd 10-12
3rd 10-12
4rth 10-35

To me a scoring line as the first example is more realistic than the second one. Further more its very frustating if you sit week after week to see your games and suddenly you go to the last quarter and from +9 points you end up -14 while all the game the teams where playing evenly and suddenly in the last 12 minutes the opponents became frenzy.
I dont know I am just saying my opinion and I would like your opinion on this in an attempt to try to make the game as best as it can get and as realistic as possible. Maybe I am wrong I dont know
Thnaks for reading this

In a game just ended we were down by at least 16 points in the 2nd quarter, and we won the game by 18p.

1. The BB's can implement rocket launchers into the game because this is a game and not real life.
2. Going into a frenzy can happen in real life. Both teams could be even but then one may gain a bit of momentum and go BAM, BAM! and knock some quick buckets. I don't see anything wrong 8D

NBA

* 36 points (early in third quarter) - The host Utah Jazz overcame a 36 point deficit to defeat the visitor Denver Nuggets on November 27, 1996.[21] The Jazz trailed by 34 points at halftime, and the deficit grew to 36 points early in the second half, but the Jazz rallied to win in regulation by a final score of Utah 107, Denver 103. This marked both the largest comeback from the start of the second half and the largest overall deficit overcome in NBA history.[22]
* 35 points (8:50 remaining in third quarter) - The visitor Sacramento Kings overcame a 35 point deficit to defeat the host Chicago Bulls on December 21, 2009. This marked the second largest overall deficit overcome in NBA history. The score was Sacramento 44, Chicago 79 with 8:50 remaining in the third quarter when the Kings rallied with a 58-19 run for the remainder of the game. The Kings won in regulation by a final score of Sacramento 102, Chicago 98.
* 29 points (8:43 remaining in fourth quarter) - The visitor Milwaukee Bucks overcame a 29 point deficit to defeat the host Atlanta Hawks on November 25, 1977. This marked the largest fourth quarter deficit overcome in NBA history. The score was Milwaukee 82, Atlanta 111 with 8:43 remaining in the fourth quarter when the Bucks rallied with a 35-4 run to finish the game. The Bucks won in regulation by a final score of Milwaukee 117, Atlanta 115.

NCAA
FINAL DATE DEFICIT TIME
REMAINING PCT.
Duke 74, Tulane 72 Dec. 30, 1950 32 22:00 43.2
Kentucky 99, LSU 95 Feb. 15, 1994 31 15:34 31.3
NM . 117, Bradley 109 Jan. 27, 1977 28 33:49 23.9
Princeton 50, Penn 49 Feb. 9, 1999 27 15:11 54.0
UNCC 79, Tenn 76 Nov. 29, 1995 26 15:00 32.9
SOURCE: NCAA

Denver Nuggets 103, Utah Jazz 107
Scoring
1 2 3 4 T
DEN 37 33 15 18 103
UTA 19 17 36 35 107
I remember that game. What I am trying to say is that this is not an everyday thing and especially when two equal teams are playing. Something that I cannot say for the game of Sacramento (13-14) against Bulls (10-16).
It is not right to include college basketball since it is nothing like the real NBA or European basketball. I agree you can see this kind of differences in College games but very rarely in professional games in NBA and even Europe.
Anyway I am not complaining about a defeat I am just saying that it doesnt sound right in my opinion especially if two equal teams are involved.
If it helps here is the link of my latest game. http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/24068352/boxscore.aspx
23 points difference (33-10) in the last 12 minutes. I know the homecourt factor plays a role. The gameshape of the players were similar, the matchup ratings similar.
Thanks for answering.


Last edited by Pistoleros at 9/1/2010 8:16:09 AM

Base Offense isn't a good taktik against Man to Man defence, your opponent has good FW-Stats, your player got in foul trouble espacially PF and SG. The PF & SG of your opponent scored good and maybe they got some momentum in the last quater. Don't know the motivation of you both but the lose might be ok.

Greetz

His SG had very few points until the beginning of the 4rth. All of a sudden he could not miss a shot. If I am not mistaken he just missed one or 2. Other than that I used the Base offense cause my team consists of nearly equal strenght players ( nearlty as it shows from the ratings aswell).
Anyway to cut the story short, what made me write this post isnt the fact that I lost. I am ok with that. He was playing in his own court, the teams are fairly equal or close to equal. What I didnt like was the sudden scoreline in the 4rth quarter. In the first 4 minutes oif the courter he was wining 20-3 if Iam not mistaken. Then 25-5. And fisnished with 33-10. No matter who made a shot he couldnt miss. Even his PG with value of about 6,000 against my PG of about 30,000 salary.

I always play follow the dept chart. If I played follow dept chart until 4rth would this not happen. I am asking so as to learn cause to be honest I was very upset after the end of the game cause it didnt seem right to me. Not between equal teams with similar game shape with similar enthousiasm.It just doesnt seem right to loss this way.

Anyway thanks Skill for your time. I wish it never happens to me or to anyone else cause it feels very unfair to my eyes.
Thanks again man.

Anyway to cut the story short, what made me write this post isnt the fact that I lost. I am ok with that. He was playing in his own court, the teams are fairly equal or close to equal. What I didnt like was the sudden scoreline in the 4rth quarter. In the first 4 minutes oif the courter he was wining 20-3 if Iam not mistaken. Then 25-5. And fisnished with 33-10.

That's part of basketball, teams get hot and make runs with momentum changing back and forth.

Even his PG with value of about 6,000 against my PG of about 30,000 salary.

His PG only shot 3-10, which seems inline with his 77ppg matchup rating. Salary is not always a good indicator of performance, you're leaving out the important skills that drive those salaries, enthusiasm, etc.

I am asking so as to learn cause to be honest I was very upset after the end of the game cause it didnt seem right to me.

It will be hard for you to improve your team with this viewpoint. From a neutral point of view, this game seems to have played out fairly. Maybe it could have been a little closer, but it was within 10 points until the last couple mins.

Maybe your players dont have great stamina, have skills that need to be trained up to be more rounded, the tactics weren't the best (he attacked your weaker outside defense with the RNG, successfully), maybe you need to work on other aspects like managing enthusiasm better, etc. I'm just brainstorming here, but these are probably better things to focus on then second guessing the GE, at least in this case.

I'm just brainstorming here, but these are probably better things to focus on then second guessing the GE, at least in this case.

Its easier and might don't take that much time.

I included the college scores because there are 5 divisions in BB and only the best of the best could be considered NBA-ish. D.1's of Spain, Italy, USA, Germany are the NBA. The rest of us are lucky to be even NCAA level. Thai d.1 is more like NAIA women's hoops.

Anyway, you also have to consider the fact that there are more games played in one season of BB than have ever been played in the NBA. It stands to reason that there will be more examples of weird outcomes.

Thai d.1 is more like NAIA women's hoops.

Yikes..that where you scored the basket that made you laugh?