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161952.1
Date: 10/22/2010 12:12:22 AM
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I was just looking at the transfer list and happened to see a player with Phenomenal (18) Shotblocking. I looked at his stats from the game and he averages 2 blocks a game with 39.7 minutes a game average. Considering the salary increase due to the shot blocking compared to shot blocking at prominent is probably around 100k or more, is this proof that shot blocking is indeed useless, OR is the phenomenal shot blocking simply making people miss lots of shots but not having many blocks recorded on his stats?

I was just surprised to see someone with such a high shotblocking skill getting so few blocks.

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161952.2 in reply to 161952.1
Date: 10/22/2010 12:25:07 AM
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From Charles in the Economy thread in Global (161502.60):

- In terms of changing valuations of players and evolving rankings, I might predict that in a few seasons, everybody will be wondering why BB managers were so late to realize the value of shot blocking and free throws, too.

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161952.3 in reply to 161952.1
Date: 10/22/2010 12:33:45 AM
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Maybe he is so freaking scary, nobody takes shots against him and they just run from him? I don't think there's a stat for that.

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161952.4 in reply to 161952.2
Date: 10/22/2010 12:48:24 AM
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I did read that at the time, and then I saw this player, which is why I made this post. He says we might be late to realise the value of shot blocking, but this player has 18 shot blocking and I can't see any value in his stats. Especially considering he is paying an extra 100k salary for those 8 pops of shot blocking.

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161952.5 in reply to 161952.3
Date: 10/22/2010 12:49:52 AM
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lol maybe... :P

I know shot blocking affects the percentage of the opponent making a shot, and only shots that are 100% blocked will appear on the stats. So perhaps it is simply that the lack of blocks is misleading. But I would still expect higher than 2 blocks a game average for someone with such high shot blocking.

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161952.6 in reply to 161952.5
Date: 10/22/2010 1:10:25 AM
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For what it's worth, with my two main PF trainees, one has respectable SB, the other has strong. Guess which one averages more blocks per game. Yup, the guy with respectable. I suspect ID may have something to do with it. You may be great at swatting balls, but if you can't defend, you won't get the opportunity. Purely speculation on my part, but it does make sense.

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161952.7 in reply to 161952.6
Date: 10/22/2010 1:14:13 AM
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What is the defence level of your 2 PFs?

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161952.8 in reply to 161952.7
Date: 10/22/2010 1:16:55 AM
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They're both respectable. So either sub-levels have an impact on performance or I'm completely off-base in my suspicion. :)

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161952.9 in reply to 161952.8
Date: 10/22/2010 1:27:13 AM
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Sub levels definitely impact performance. And I have no doubt that shot blocking and defence work together a lot. But the guy with phenomenal shot blocking has good defence...and still not many blocks...so I'm confused :P

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161952.10 in reply to 161952.5
Date: 10/22/2010 1:29:58 AM
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But I would still expect higher than 2 blocks a game average for someone with such high shot blocking.

His average last season was 2.4 blocks per game. The number seems about right considering he is two levels beneath legendary, and Hakeem Olajuwon only averaged around 3 blocks/game.

What I'm more surprised about is that his record number of blocks per game is 7. I have a guy on my team who is an 18 year old rookie with only an average shot blocking skill and mediocre game shape, who played his first ever game today on TIE vs a CT and made 7 blocks. So right now, he has a 7 block per game average, haha.




Last edited by bonespawn at 10/22/2010 1:30:39 AM

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161952.11 in reply to 161952.10
Date: 10/22/2010 1:34:13 AM
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2 blocks a game doesn't seem right. I have had players on strong shot blocking to prominent shot blocking average 2 blocks per game, so having 8 levels higher should average much more blocks. At least 7 a game. If you had phenomenal rebounding you would get an insane amount of rebounds. Obviously rebounds are more common than shot blocking, I'm just saying that at such a high level of shot blocking 2 per game isn't enough. You are essentially paying 50k salary per block.