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after studying the game much ive decided on doing something unique and seeing how it works out
so i purchased some trainee's got some pops and sold them to start my real team

i have nothing but 18 yr olds, with short heights and decent potential
i also cherry picked the ones who have good big man skills
i plan to train each of their big man skills to level i think is good (not great but good enough)
so that all players can play anywhere from position 1 through 5 and are totally interchangeable
after their big man skills are caught up (could be two seasons) i will then focus on their gueard skills untill they reach about age 30

i planned on going with a RnG offense, do u think i should go with something else with a lineup like this?
my logic is everyone on the team will be a decent rebounder, RnG seems inefficient but with this many second shot oppertunities from offensive rebounding im guessing i will get i think its my best bet

here is my roster thus far

skills are marked as followed
JS JR OD HA DR PA IS ID RB SB ST FT EX


Nikolay Nazyrov
Age: 18
Height: 6'4" / 193 cm
Potential: 6th man
5 6 5 7 5 6 7 6 6 6 5 2 1

Santiago Castellmolto
Age: 18
Height: 6'0" / 183 cm
Potential: starter
6 5 2 7 7 4 7 2 7 5 5 8 1

Julián Lavandeira
Age: 18
Height: 6'2" / 188 cm
Potential: allstar
5 5 3 4 6 6 6 7 6 3 4 4 1

Dylan Peeters
Age: 18
Height: 6'0" / 183 cm
Potential: superstar
5 2 3 4 6 6 6 6 6 6 4 2 1

Víctor Fitado
Age: 18
Height: 6'4" / 193 cm
Potential: starter
5 7 2 5 6 5 7 7 4 1 6 5 2

Marcel Števčík
Age: 18
Height: 6'4" / 193 cm
Potential: star
6 2 1 3 7 7 5 7 5 6 7 8 1

Gustavo Neto
Age: 18
Height: 6'0" / 183 cm
Potential: role player
3 6 7 6 6 6 3 4 5 2 3 5 1

Pere Puig
Age: 18
Height: 5'10" / 178 cm
Potential: allstar
3 5 1 7 7 6 4 2 7 6 2 8 1

Martin Pant
Age: 18
Height: 6'2" / 188 cm
Potential: star
5 4 4 7 7 6 2 6 5 1 5 7 1

Saimir Isufi
Age: 18
Height: 5'10" / 178 cm
Potential: superstar
4 5 3 6 7 5 3 6 3 5 3 2 1

Davide Brun
Age: 18
Height: 6'4" / 193 cm
Potential: star
7 6 2 6 5 4 4 4 7 1 3 2 2

Nereo Ferrón
Age: 18
Height: 6'1" / 185 cm
Potential: starter
7 2 2 4 4 7 6 6 2 6 4 3 1

José Noronha
Age: 18
Height: 6'3" / 190 cm
Potential: star
7 7 3 3 3 3 7 1 5 4 4 3 1

Anastazy Salata
Age: 18
Height: 6'3" / 190 cm
Potential: allstar
4 2 5 4 4 2 5 7 3 7 6 2 1

Ralf Aner
Age: 18
Height: 6'0" / 183 cm
Potential: starter
6 6 6 3 4 3 4 3 4 2 7 8 1

Jeffrey Miller
Age: 18
Height: 6'2" / 188 cm
Potential: starter
7 5 4 7 4 3 6 1 2 1 3 7 1


i know alot of people will think this is a very stupid idea, but im sick of reading about the same cookie cutter teams all day on here lol and i thought this could be alot of fun

do you guys have any suggestions on tactics etc etc?
and yes i know training big man skills on players this short will be really slow but i dont plan on getting them super high, maybe proficient in IS ID RB SB for each player then move on to the guard skills till they all cap out
since i plan on training these guys their entire rest of their BB Careers i should be able to get some results i hope although maybe not till later seasons

Sounds like the OKC of 2 years ago. Young and athletic rebounders.
I would tend to think you need to add a veteran with strong experience to your mix.
Also I favor drafting my prospects over buying them. Just my opinion.

Theres not a lot of point in having more then six 18 year olds trainees. Spreading training across all those players will be very inefficient and your team will have trouble developing. Its possible to develop good players this way but you would have to choose the best players and concentrate on them.

I have wanted to do this for about three seasons, but always find some reason to keep my present team. I have a slightly different plan, which involves a lot of team training, but I say go for it. Keep good records of your team's progress and let us know how it goes.

thanks do you think i should document the process through this thread maybe?
any ideas on how i should show progress etc etc?

This can't be efficient, this can't be effective. I fear you'll show a waning interest after 3-4 weeks with extremely limited pops (or literally no pops if you do train big man skills on these players). I don't see how it'd be worth it.

I think you're new enough that you're still on your grace period (the period of time when you have freedom to make roster moves with no negative effect on your percentage return on player sales) so if I were you, I'd trim down your trainee total to 4 and buy 2 higher quality trainees for a total of 6. 2 position training is very effective. You still have the intriguing idea of buying small players with solid secondary skills, so there's still a uniqueness and experimental process with it.

The only documented team training in the training speed analysis thread (78242.1) is:

One on One

(78242.4)
Trains DV @ 4 weeks (3 if skill is very low)
Trains HN @ 4-5 weeks
Trains IS @ 14-16 weeks
Trains JS @ 14-16 weeks

I don't know how accurate that is, but it appears reasonable, and that's 4-5 weeks for a single DRV/HND pop and 14-16 weeks for a single IS/JS pop on a player. You must also consider that training slows with age. I'm no one-on-one aficionado as it is, but you couldn't even pay me to train that way.

Last edited by Stajan at 11/8/2010 2:29:17 AM

Interesting idea, but the biggest problem is that it will be very hard to train so many people at the same time. But yes, you could try it.

Another thing you might run into though is the potential of your players. I see some stars and starters there, who won't fit in your plan. You say you want to train them till they are 30. These players will be capped much sooner, so you'll either have to sell them at some point or change your training regime (or be satisfied with really slow pops due to the cap).

This will never work, as your opponents will outrebound you with much better C/PFs, plus the skills of your current players are too low to be worth training anyway - you will be stuck with 23 year old players with ~5k salaries in 5 seasons if you follow your plan.

You wont have decent shooters and passers for a RnG-offense too...

For the first three seasons that I played BB, I trained team training and 3 position training A LOT. Not all the time, but far more often than is perceived to be "the way" to go about training. I don't remember very well, but it certainly didn't take 16 weeks for my players to pop in skills. You are in d. IV and there are 5 bots in your league- 2 in your conference and 3 in the other with a couple more likely to go bot soon. You most certainly aren't going to promote this season and probably not next either, so why not try a new approach. If it is fun for you, then who cares if it is the most efficient? If it turns out you would rather go down a more traditional road, it's not like anybody is going to make you stay the course.