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Date: 11/11/2010 1:08:49 PM
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I personally didn't expect much out of the raptors this season, but anyone else frustrated by the season so far?

I mean, we still have that 14mil TPE from the Bosh trade... is BC waiting for an injury to hit some other team so we can low ball away calderon and evans for a big star?

The fundamental problems of the raptors still aren't fixed at this point

Defence
Coaching (no offense Triano, nice guy, but you don't seem to have what it takes)
1st Scoring Option (no Bosh and no one else is able to step up consistently)
PG (Jack is not great at setting the offense or passing imo... look at his TOs)

my attempt to revive the non-BB forums hahaha

From: Stajan

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163713.2 in reply to 163713.1
Date: 11/11/2010 2:09:42 PM
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I'd be enthralled with a top 2 pick and 1 of Harrison Barnes or Kyrie Irving. We don't have 1 single player who can create or 1 single player who can efficiently score at a good clip. We need that. Our defence is a story for another day. Hovering around .500 (or trading away 1st rounders like they're dirt and throwing around terrible contracts every offseason) like in recent seasons doesn't allow us the opportunity to improve.

Triano is comically bad - which is good, because we need all the lottery balls we can get.

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163713.3 in reply to 163713.2
Date: 11/11/2010 2:57:50 PM
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Triano is comically bad - which is good, because we need all the lottery balls we can get.


What's wrong with him?

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163713.4 in reply to 163713.3
Date: 11/11/2010 3:18:25 PM
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His substitution patterns, his in-game personnel management, his absolute refusal to call necessary time outs, his plays coming out of time outs, his plays at the end of games.

Playing Calderon and Jack at the same time last season for massive stretches of games last season, games like the NY game where he made brutal decisions and just awful drawn up plays, games like the SAC game where we were up 16 nearing the end of the third and he didn't call a time out until we were tied, end game against NY (wtf was that?), SAC, LAL, CHA.

From: zmtomako

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163713.5 in reply to 163713.4
Date: 11/11/2010 4:37:54 PM
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I can't help but agree with what Stajan is saying...

but its not like he has it easy with 2 average PGs and no clutch star player that can create shots... or a defensive stopper

Bargs looks lost on the floor (still) half the time (like wth was he doing with the ball against NYK at the end) and tyreke evans just lit us up that game, no perimeter D to stop the drive then interior/help D once he got in

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163713.6 in reply to 163713.5
Date: 11/12/2010 10:29:15 PM
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That was a pretty nice win tonight. Every few games, DeMar is putting out a really solid game. Much better than last year. Hopefully he can keep developing and end up as one of those dynamic guards that are a prerequisite to succeeding in the NBA right now.

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163713.7 in reply to 163713.6
Date: 11/14/2010 4:35:55 PM
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Oueftete - Do you watch the Raptors? I don't understand how you can ask how Triano is a bad coach.

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Date: 11/14/2010 9:49:12 PM
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Agreed on coaching too. I like that he is from Canada , but other than that no thank you. I think our old coach was far better. I hope we have one to more good rebounding years we need it.

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163713.9 in reply to 163713.7
Date: 11/15/2010 9:39:23 AM
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Oueftete - Do you watch the Raptors? I don't understand how you can ask how Triano is a bad coach.


I do when I can... I've only had a chance to see one game on TV so far this season. I think it's easy for people to just say someone's a bad coach... I wanted to see someone at least try to back it up, instead of just parroting sports radio or blogs or whatever.

Also, I expect there's apporoximately zero people who will ever see this thread qualified to say whether Triano's a good coach or not.

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163713.10 in reply to 163713.9
Date: 11/15/2010 12:09:58 PM
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I do when I can... I've only had a chance to see one game on TV so far this season. I think it's easy for people to just say someone's a bad coach... I wanted to see someone at least try to back it up, instead of just parroting sports radio or blogs or whatever.


Good point there. I completely agree with you and it really irritates me when people do that.


Also, I expect there's apporoximately zero people who will ever see this thread qualified to say whether Triano's a good coach or not.


I'm not sure I'm following you here. How exactly do you need to be qualified to discern whether or not Triano's a bad coach? If you've been watching, following and playing basketball for years, have some intelligence, and routinely watch Raptors games, it's terribly obvious how unfit he is for the job. All you have to do is watch the last 2 minutes of any close Raps game and see some of the plays he draws up. Embarrassing.

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163713.11 in reply to 163713.10
Date: 11/15/2010 2:30:13 PM
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we are fans, we are qualified to comment lol

just to reinforce my other comments, i just wouldnt put the blame solely on triano right now just because our roster, lets face it, is crap
i'd wait till ed davis comes back, see the new rotation... let BC decide who and when hes going to make a deal (remember that TPE?), and THEN we should decide on whether or not triano is worthy of coaching that new group of guys

some days i think BC put triano in there to take some heat off himself because quite frankly, nothing hes done seemed to have worked out:
kapono was a failure
ford got usurped by calderon (who was actually babcock's signing)
jermaine oneal? (which btw we traded roy hibbert for)
hedo?
delfino was great but couldnt resign him
garbo was great but he got injured and didnt try to keep him

lots of moves, lots of hype, but nothing's worked out for BC
im glad hes not passive, but sometimes he should really calm down and think before doing things