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165687.1
Date: 12/7/2010 11:26:29 AM
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I think about several changes in transfer and B3 rules (some of them we have discussed in global forum):

1) cancel Available cash after bids, use only Total cash reserves, all the money would be ready for investment after the transfer, not whilst the player is still at TL (it would mean the end of early bids)
2) don't allow to play player without paying him a salary (when you buy him on Monday to Thursday and sell again before financial update) - allow to list player again not early than 4 days after the purchase (I can imagine even more restrictive rule like several weeks), due to this everyone should pay at least one salary, but still you can use him twice in B3 for one salary
3) make deadline for B3 registation - for example before the round 5 and one aditional player should be registered by semifinalists in all star week

One of reasons for my suggestions is wild situation in teams of this season's B3 finalist before the final which take place tomorrow.

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165687.2 in reply to 165687.1
Date: 12/7/2010 12:16:49 PM
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1. I like it how it is, because when you get money for sure why you shouldn't get the credit to reinvest it.

2. for this case i liked a signing fee more, with one salary for the week. But also you loose money through the selling dates, at least i saw one of the big paid player who have quite difference transfer sum at the begin and the end of the week(not a full salary but close to it)

3. i like this one, like the transfer deadline for PO.

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165687.3 in reply to 165687.1
Date: 12/7/2010 12:44:03 PM
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Well, well, well, I think it actually took too much time for this to happen...

What are $200-500k players worth for? They are worth only as "for rent players". You buy them for a few bucks, use them for a game and then dismiss them without even having to play their wages... congrats to our fellow BBs... B3 seems to be ruined... but that's no surprise, it was obvious it was going to happen... what surprises me is the fact that it hadn't happened last season already.

I think that obviously something must be done to stop the rent market of 200k+ players, but I also think that most measures to avoid what is going on won't have much effect... even if you were supposed to keep a 200k+ player for at least 4 days it won't prevent them from being rented, it would only cause a drop on their market value, which would compensate keeping the player on the roster for this additional time... maybe the only solution for this B3 problem is to force teams to compete on B3 with the same roster they played the 1st B3 game.

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165687.4 in reply to 165687.3
Date: 12/7/2010 2:01:02 PM
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Wouldn't a cap on player salaries work? Something around 150-200k, which would act similarly to the NBA's maximum salary.

If the NBA removed its max salary, LeBron James could command 50 mil per year, making him the equivalent of the 500k rental player in BB, where no team can sustain owning him for a long time. Instead, his salary is capped so that he makes no more than Rudy Gay, despite being worth so much more than Gay, and other low-level max players.

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165687.5 in reply to 165687.4
Date: 12/7/2010 2:09:28 PM
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Maybe it's a matter of tweeking the salary formula in order to get the players that today make 300-500k to drop to less than 200k. I really don't know much about statistics and pattern deviation and all that stuff but I imagine there is something that could be done to fix that mess... but, we know, we'll hear that there is nothing wrong with the game, everything is bright and beautiful, the economy is balanced etc etc and nothing will change, so why bother?



Last edited by LA-Bernspin at 12/7/2010 2:20:37 PM

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165687.6 in reply to 165687.5
Date: 12/7/2010 2:13:27 PM
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Haha, I actually do think the BB economy is in a very healthy state, with high salaried players being possibly the only major problem. I'd be in favor of tweaking the formula, but be aware that dropping the salary of a 400k player by 50% to 200k can't be followed by dropping the salary of a 50k player by 50% to 25k, and so on. That would ruin the BB economy.

Maybe the formula can be tweaked for high salary players only - and maybe that tweak is as simple as a cap on player salaries.

(btw, the money saved on player salaries would be re-invested in the now realistic high transfer prices for these great 200k+ players, with the only difference being that finally, the players are sustainable!)

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165687.7 in reply to 165687.6
Date: 12/7/2010 2:26:17 PM
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Yes, that's what I think, you should spend less on wages but should have to spend more to buy the players, and not the opposite.
Some people argue that high salaries are not a big deal because 95% of the managers are on lower divisions and so this problem don't affect most people but I think that high salaries are a big deal because they affect directly the NTs and the B3. If NTs and the B3 competition are not important so the BBs should get rid of them and so we won't have any complaints anymore.

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165687.8 in reply to 165687.1
Date: 12/8/2010 3:09:02 AM
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Another of my suggestions:
4) involve adaptability to game, it would mean player wouldn't play on 100% of his abbilities just after the transfer, he would reach 100% after some time in new team, maybe one season, or some amount of games played. It could work f.e. like this:
- first game or week after the transfer playing like a lucky fun
- second game or week playing on 50% of abbilities
- third game or week playing on 75%
- etc.
There could be double speed of rising adaptibility for domestic players.

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165687.9 in reply to 165687.8
Date: 12/8/2010 5:33:12 AM
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The numbers are kind of cruel, but the idea seems acceptable to me. More like a first week 70 percent, second 80 and so on.

I think that domestic players could run 90-100 percent right away, because the key issue during adaptability is the langage. Perhaps there might be a list of languages player already know, so he will adapt faster next time.

This probably kind of ruin the effort of "safer" B3, but looks to me like a cool thing to have it here.

From: Kukoc
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165687.10 in reply to 165687.9
Date: 12/8/2010 5:55:26 AM
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I think the best option would be paying the first salary at signing. Or create a system which pays all the salarys of players staff that were with the team during last week (this way you would not have to pay the salary at signing). Perhaps even remember the signing fee at the next economic update (players signed last week have no salary at next economic update). Dunno which one of those is the easiest to implement.

From: aigidios

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165687.11 in reply to 165687.10
Date: 12/8/2010 7:36:01 AM
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Im not quite sure if salary payment will help, is possible that it will just send the price of player even more below.