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Now i don't want this to sound like one of those threads that are all whiny and just someone talking about how much something sucks...cause i think the draft is great...I'm so very happy with the new scout system...(although i think it could be slightly better if the scouting could be integrated with the hiring of a scout as a staff member instead of getting scout points through donation...the better the scout the more points you get per week...and more than likely...the more you're gonna have to pay so it balances...but if you're able to find a cheap scout...you could be getting more points for less money...so it has benefits to being a attentive BuzzerBeater player...but this way's good too...)

in fact...it's nice to have an actual draft system...growing up in Canada i'm used to sports (the ones i follow at least) having the draft system to introduce new talent and balance out the skill level amongst teams...I'm not quite sure how European leagues do it...if they have a draft or not...but I've played some sports manager games with no draft...and...well...as i said...I'm just glad this game has a draft system at all...

now that I've finished kissing butt...maybe I'll get on to my idea...

you ever have a time when say...you REALLY want a PF...and there are 3 descent ones that you've scouted...so you set em as 1, 2, and 3 in your draft order...now you only want 1...and you figure to set em in this order so that if your first choice is taken...you get 2...if 1 and 2 are taken...you should at least get 3...etc...but then you log in to discover that all 3 of your draftees...by some sort of luck (good or bad??) are your top 3 choices...so now you have 3 PF's when you really only wanted 1...

okay...now on to my idea...

instead of doing the entire draft in one sitting...we should split it up...we have 3 rounds of playoffs...we have 3 rounds of the draft...it works out perfectly...each round goes during a playoff game...and in the case of the final (being best of 3) the 3rd round of the draft can go either on the day of the 1st game...2nd game...or tie breaker...and seeing as these draftees were acquired so late in the season...you won't be able to use them for playoffs...

if this system was to go into effect...you could log on between rounds and check what you got and reorganize to optimize your drafting experience...

you NEED a PF...you send all the PF prospects to the top of your list...then the day after the first playoff game...check back...you got your PF...now you need a good PG...send the PF prospects to the bottom of your list and rearrange your list to be pro PG...

i think this would add a new level of control to the management of your team...and after all...isn't that what we all want...is more control???

so if there is any of the Buzzer Beater higher uppers reading this (or anyone that is in tight with one)...i think it could be something to try and implement...yes?

sounds good to me, even when i would target for the same kind of player in the draft because you could train them together instead of different players(ok i would do it, if i have a team who actually trains^^).

I think it creates more hassle than managers want. Suggestion overall is a decent one, but let's face it you will not need a PF and PG in the same draft. To be honest in this game none with take trainees so far apart considering training positions. Fielding anything from the draft in a competitive game is a liability (in most leagues). Do we actually have any decent 18yo's left after the first round with the new draft? Highly unlikely.
European leagues have no draft.

Do we actually have any decent 18yo's left after the first round with the new draft? Highly unlikely.

thats depend on the league, in very active leagues not but i lot of low level iv with some "inactive" players and bots i saw quite good third round picks.

I think this falls into the category of "Great Idea but..."

I would personally really like this. It would add more interest in the draft, etc. My big reservation is that it will help some managers more than others. The "off season" starts early in the playoffs if not sooner for most teams, and I think many managers like aren't logging so often at that point, so they would be at a disadvantage in the draft. Sure, the later rounds usually produce mostly players that won't be worth much and so the best players will go in the first round when everyone will have equal chance to set their priority lists, but in lower leagues it's not always the case and some good players are still around in the later rounds. Also, the team with the first pick in each round is out of all playoffs, and I doubt too many depressed relegating managers want to log in only to set their next list of draft priorities.

Yeah, I'm exaggerating the negatives a bit, but I'm not sure the idea, as much as I really do like it, outweighs the negatives enough to justify the change.

But keep these sort of great suggestions coming!

when i understand him right, you could still make the complete list before the first round. So maybe your draftees don't fit that good to each other, but you still pick the dudes u considered as best when u don't change the list.

Yes, but it would take weekly action to adjust the list to achieve the advantage mentioned in the first post for similar adjustments to suit strategy. If a team grabs a dud in the first round, then maybe that team will make either a riskier or more conservative adjustment, for example. It's the adjusting that is the advantage.

I like a lot your proposal. The more you invest in draft, the more information you have. Teams spending money in draft can use their information in the diferent rounds to change the order. For example you can find that you have your PG in your first round but nobody chosed this tall C with good potential in that round, so you can try to put it at first place suspecting nobody have information about him. I think it makes the draft process more interesting and dinamic and makes your money spent in draft more usefull (it is not as usefull as could be now).

I like the idea of hiring a scout to get the draft points, but i think one of the worst things in this game is how the salary of doctor, PPRR or trainer rise each week. If hiring a scout means another guy with salary rising without control, no thanks, i can live without it.

It wolud be grate to hore scouts with specialities like "Inside players scout" or "ouside players scout" leting you to scout tree tall draftees with two scout points and similar things.

i agree about the staff salary...i don't mind the increase...otherwise you you could find a absolutely fantastic staff member at cheapo prices and keep him that way forever...but the fact it rises every week is a bit much...but i understand they are just making it so that we have to keep active in the game in order to have best staff for the cheapest amount...

i forgot all about the specialties...you could make em sort of like the 2 post-all star games buttons...have a guy with the specialty of "combine specialist" and then maybe the combine only costs you 6 scout points instead of 10 and the other specialty could be "hidden gem finder"...or something...and then the group demonstration only costs 6 instead of 10...*shrug*...but the scout staff isn't even the main idea put forth here...so i should get back to discussion that...

i think that it would actually make those that are the last place relegating teams be more likely to log in...cause as it is right now...they really don't have anything to log in for...but the draft is made specifically for these people more than those who are the favorites for the championship...you look at the NHL, the NBA, the NFL...you get a team that finishes last vs a team that finishes first...i can tell you with almost 100% certainty that the fans of the last place team are more excited for the draft than the first place...cause they are the ones getting the Halls and the Seguins...the Lebron Jameses...the Reggie Bushs...i know if i have a first place draft i'm gonna be a little more excited to see how the player i pick is gonna measure up than if i have the last place pick...why do you think a lot of better teams...when they know they're gonna kick butt this season invest less in the draft...with the draft right now...the last place teams don't have games...so they don't log in for a couple weeks so that they can see what they get in the draft...where if you have a draft round taking place that first Tuesday and then that Saturday and the following week as well...they're are more likely to log in at those times cause they actually have a reason to...

as for the idea that no one usually drafts to wildly in terms of positions...i have come to realize I'm a bit of an oddity in these managerial games...but i don't draft to train and then sell...i draft to get players that are gonna help me win...i try to build a stable economy through ticket sales and then draft players i need...maybe this is why i don't win a whole lot...but it's what i like...as i said...I'm an north American sports fan...we don't see our teams drafting just for the sake of selling that player for money...they draft so that in the future he will make the team better either through play of trade...that's the example i play by...and so i do that...you usually can't draft an instant starter like Cleveland did with James...or Toronto did with Bosh...but i look at my team...i see where I'm weakest...and i draft to that position...and if it's just a backup I'm looking for...i draft to that position as well...and when you do that...the positions you look to draft do vary...how the draft is now...i basically pick what i want in the first round...not always get it...but that's the most control you have...but after that...round 2 and 3 are a bit random...sometimes you get lucky and no one has the same scouting info on your 2nd and 3rd choices and you get them as well...other times you get someone that is completely useless what you're trying to build your team up as...i have 4 good, young, tall inside men...so i don't look for that type in the draft anymore...unless my scouting has revealed that the top 10 players are tall inside men...then i may go for em with the intent to sell...sometimes the draft dictates that you draft for the best...some times you can draft to position...but the point being...i don't really want anymore big men...and yet every draft...i usually get some...usually in the later rounds...

where if you have the option to adjust between rounds...it would be less random...i know right now i could just send all the PF's and C's to the bottom of my list...but I'd rather get a great C than a lousy SF even if i don't NEED a C...so if i could go in before the second round...see what's been taken...what's left...i can decide then if i should draft a good C i don't need or if there's still some good enough players that i can draft to position for this upcoming round...

and i would say that you'd just leave the draft rankings how it is...so that if someone doesn't care as much...they can just set it once and let the draft decide for em...the only difference would be that in between rounds...you can adjust your rankings to better suit what you have learned so far in the draft and what you need moving forward...

as for the point of this giving too much advantage to those players that log in more than those that don't...i don't mean to sound anal...and i do understand that there are some players that just CAN'T log in as often as they'd like...but in these sort of games...shouldn't we reward those people that log in often...even knowing that there are people that can't log in as much as they'd like...probably 90% of the time...people log in more cause they are more interested...and people log in less cause they just have a casual interest...and i think that heightened attentiveness and higher interest should be rewarded...you pay more attention to the game...you do better...you pay less attention...you'll lose a slight advantage...

You're logic says that managers who can log in during games can also change their tactics every quarter. If you want to be active then play the transfer market. Logging in 3 times for draft at only one point of the season does show activity feed? This game does not make you log in at specific times, want a HC game, WOW cataclysm was launched. Get into a HC raiding guild and you can raid 7 days a week from 19:00-01:00. I love this game because it does not make me log in every hour. Even when buying players I can bid the amount I'm willing to spend right away.
NB! You should always draft the best rookie available. Setting 3 PF's as your first picks is kind of silly (considering there are other better options on the table). Even if you plan on training a draft player as you future star and get some nice merchandise off of him. It's better to draft a great player than just a spot filler. You can always sell your current PF trainee, train you great drafted SG and buy an older established player for that PF spot.