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From: zyler
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Date: 1/21/2011 10:59:58 PM
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having a fairly deep convo with a few guys on bb about how attendence and sth works.

this is what i believe

STH - depends on cup results - div your in - promotion demotion.

attendence - depends on sth - fan survey - div - team results

tv income - depends on strength of div

merch - depends on team results - player results - home grown players - national team players and under 21's players.

how accurate is this ? does anyone think something different.

(note: there not in a particular order)

Last edited by zyler at 1/21/2011 11:00:40 PM

From: rcvaz

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171838.2 in reply to 171838.1
Date: 1/21/2011 11:14:59 PM
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I wouldn't say that attendance depends on fan survey, which itself depends on team performance, and I would add that it also depends on who you're playing. The Lakers seem to attract bigger crowds than the Kings.

Other than that I agree on everything ;)

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Date: 1/21/2011 11:28:09 PM
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I wouldn't say that attendance depends on fan survey, which itself depends on team performance, and I would add that it also depends on who you're playing. The Lakers seem to attract bigger crowds than the Kings.

Other than that I agree on everything ;)


Take a look more closely at the STH part, and then repost if you still agree on everything :P

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171838.4 in reply to 171838.3
Date: 1/22/2011 12:31:36 AM
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What's wrong with that? Your sth depend on how well you did in the previous season, and that includes what he listed there, as well as the division you're in. Does arena capacity also influence it?

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171838.5 in reply to 171838.4
Date: 1/22/2011 12:51:29 AM
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Technically, he didn't write "how well the team did in the previous season". He wrote cup results.
I think that League record also affects STH.

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171838.6 in reply to 171838.5
Date: 1/22/2011 1:50:37 AM
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yer im starting to agree with you on this ,

so how do you see it exactly ?

does it depend on just position finished in the season ?

or does it depend on your win loss record ?

both ?

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171838.7 in reply to 171838.6
Date: 1/22/2011 1:59:59 AM
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I think it depends on both. It would be unfair if it was based just on position.

For example:
Imagine that div 2.1 in australia was really really hard, and div 2.2 in australia was really easy.
Now maybe a team in div 2.1 needs to win 14 games to make the playoffs.
But maybe a team in div 2.2 only needs to win 10 games to make the playoffs.
It isn't fair to reward both teams with the same increase in STH.

The same thing applies to conferences within the same division.
Perhaps it is easier to make the playoffs in the Great 8 conference, and really hard to make the playoffs in the Big 8 conference. So I think that the record comes in to play as well as the position.

In other words, it is better to finish 4th with 15 wins and 7 losses than it is to finish 4th with 12 wins and 10 losses.
It also means that every single game throughout the season counts, and that tanking any game is bad for STH.
However, I think the place you finish is still more important than the record.
So finishing 4th with 9 wins and 13 losses will still result in an increase in STH even though the team lost more than half the games for the season.

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171838.8 in reply to 171838.7
Date: 1/22/2011 3:44:28 AM
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This was not friendly, it made me 66% more angry!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLeCQ8o0-9c

Your example is correct, abigfishy missed the playoffs in II.1 with 13 wins while in II.2 a team mad eit with 10 wins! Mind you this doesn't show that the league is stronger, just less balanced or that one conference is stronger.[player=XXX]

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Date: 1/22/2011 3:50:12 AM
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haha nice video.

The evidence I gave supporting my theory is that My STH increased by about 100 seats this season even though I didn't promote, and I had a bad cup run. Therefore there must be something else that affects STH. Namely, the league position and record.