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I think that if you train your own draftee, it should take longer for the salary to increase. This would be better, becuase then the lower division teams could afford to train players to be great, and not have to sell them immedietly whenhis they start to be good. Also, this would make the lower division leagues more competitive.

Actually this is a really radical idea and probably hard to code and maybe too radical for bb to impliment but I do have an idea that may solve a couple of problems.

What if there was a special rule about teams "resigning" their own draft picks.

This would make the draft much more important. It would encourage teams to spend money on the draft removing more money from the system whereas more and more players I know are now spending $0 on the draft and just buying guys off the tl. It would make home grown players much more attractive prospects which is realistic - NBA teams love to hang onto their star draft picks. It may means that some players with high potential are actually worth training. It would encourage roster stability and do something to make this more of a basketball game and less of a stock market game with basketball aspects.

What if whenever you have one of your own draft picks on your team at the start of a season when their salary is calculated you can get a "discount" for resigning them. This could represent a number of things, a loyal player taking a pay cut to make the team better like Michael Jordan and recently Dwayne Wade. Extra sponsorships flowing into the club due to local admiration of the player or just more merchandising.

The discount rate could be the mid point between last seasons salary and this seasons salary.So if the player was 20 last season and earning $20,000 a week and is 21 this season and earning $40,000 a week his wages would still be shown as $40,000 a week, if you sold him whoever bought him would have to pay $40,000 a week but you would only actually have $30,000 a week subtracted from your money.

This would have no effect on new players and so wouldn't confuse them as this rule doesn't do anything until a player has been drafted, had his skills improve and then another season has started 14 weeks later.

I think that if you train your own draftee, it should take longer for the salary to increase. This would be better, becuase then the lower division teams could afford to train players to be great, and not have to sell them immedietly whenhis they start to be good. Also, this would make the lower division leagues more competitive.

I disagree.

If draftees are the only ones who have slower increases in salary, a team like mine in the 2nd division would be far too profitable (I have 9 draftees on my roster, 5 of whom will get trained at some point this season). Is it fair if I get the same discount you do? What about a 1st division team?

Players have 12 skills. Not all of them are expensive. Think about that while you're training.

You are probably the most extreme example in the entire BB world. You have been playing since season 2 (an awesome achievement in itself - I am sure much less than 1% of teams have) have kept those wonderful Allstar* players as well as having drafted a ton of trainable players in the more recent years. Some teams are lucky - I am - and draft good rookies all the time, while others seem to get rubbish all the time. One of the guys in my league has been looking for a draft pick to train forever, last season after investing $20,000 a week for the entire season he got 2 benchwarmers and a role player. This season he got a $3,000 star, his best draft pick ever!

What about a 1st division team?

Find me a first division team that has 9 of its draft picks playing for it and I'll admit there is a problem.

You are probably the most extreme example in the entire BB world. You have been playing since season 2 (an awesome achievement in itself - I am sure much less than 1% of teams have) have kept those wonderful Allstar* players as well as having drafted a ton of trainable players in the more recent years. Some teams are lucky - I am - and draft good rookies all the time, while others seem to get rubbish all the time. One of the guys in my league has been looking for a draft pick to train forever, last season after investing $20,000 a week for the entire season he got 2 benchwarmers and a role player. This season he got a $3,000 star, his best draft pick ever!

This really isn't about the quality of the draft picks at all. (I haven't drafted a decent 18yo in a long long time.) It's about draftees somehow getting a discount for being trained, whereas no discount would exist for bought players. There is already an incentive in place to train draft picks, it's called merchandise.

What about a 1st division team?

Find me a first division team that has 9 of its draft picks playing for it and I'll admit there is a problem.

What if it was only 2? What if they were both NT centers? Should the discount still apply?

Yes I think that if it is our draftee, his salare should be lower even as a NT player

Last edited by shoe lover at 1/27/2011 10:55:15 PM

What if it was only 2? What if they were both NT centers? Should the discount still apply?

I say yes, but don't forget that in my system you only get a discount if their salary this season is higher than last season, so if their salary in season 15 is $300,000 and in season 14 it was $300,000 they get a massive discount of...nothing.

I believe that's why they implemented a merchandising bonus for having homegrown players, it's not a direct discount as your suggestion, but it helps your payroll anyway.

I was also almost forgetting about the fan survey, in which there's a "I'm familiar with the players" thing which increases your tickets income as well.

Last edited by Welington at 1/28/2011 5:58:37 AM

Yes I think that if it is our draftee, his salare should be lower even as a NT player

I'm guessing you're not aware of the merchandising kickbacks associated with owning a NT player you drafted. They're pretty retarded, and more than helpful in maintaining the salary of such a player.

What if it was only 2? What if they were both NT centers? Should the discount still apply?

I say yes, but don't forget that in my system you only get a discount if their salary this season is higher than last season, so if their salary in season 15 is $300,000 and in season 14 it was $300,000 they get a massive discount of...nothing.

You've conveniently forgotten in your system that salaries are adjusted every off-season against those of the highest-skilled players in the game. It's quite possible to train a player and have his salary decrease (i.e., training a, say, 26yo 300k center from atrocious OD to inept OD).

Another issue that occurs to me (and perhaps I'm not understanding your meaning perfectly here) is that this player got a discount in season 14. If he has the same salary in season 15, and you remove the discount, suddenly he costs more in season 15 than he did in season 14 as a penalty for not increasing his salary, which (excuse me for saying so) is freaking ludicrous.

Yes but now you are talking about such a tiny minority of teams. There are how many teams in the USA? 3,500? And I imagine less than 12 actually have a player on the senior national team. I doubt all 12 actually drafted the guy. I know a player who has his own draft pick in the Australian senior team and he gets crazy merchandising. So yes there is already a huge bonus for those lucky few teams but I am a little more concerned with helping the other 3,500.