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173288.1
Date: 2/1/2011 6:12:56 PM
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I just need help on how I should start and how much I should train each skill for my 3 trainees. I have started on OD for 2 weeks now.

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DMI: 11900
Age: 18
Height: 6'2" / 188 cm
Potential: star
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: awful
Outside Def.: strong ↑ Handling: mediocre
Driving: average Passing: respectable
Inside Shot: atrocious Inside Def.: average
Rebounding: inept Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: average Free Throw: average

Experience: atrocious

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DMI: 38300
Age: 19
Height: 6'4" / 193 cm
Potential: allstar
Game Shape: proficient
Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: inept
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: average
Driving: respectable Passing: average
Inside Shot: inept Inside Def.: awful
Rebounding: mediocre Shot Blocking: atrocious
Stamina: awful Free Throw: mediocre

Experience: atrocious



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DMI: 15200
Age: 18
Height: 6'1" / 185 cm
Potential: allstar
Game Shape: strong
Jump Shot: average Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: average
Driving: average Passing: average
Inside Shot: atrocious Inside Def.: pitiful
Rebounding: atrocious Shot Blocking: average
Stamina: awful Free Throw: inept

Experience: atrocious

Thank you to all

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173288.2 in reply to 173288.1
Date: 2/1/2011 8:44:39 PM
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training OD is a good idea for the start; that way, it's harder for your opponents to score against your backcourt.

#1 is quite limited by his potential. Try to look for a cheap player on the market with at least allstar potential, shouldn't cost you more than 10k.

#2 might become a nice PG; while #3 could become either a PG or SG; try forming him into a player who can fit into either role (probably either the SG role if you keep both of them).

I arranged their skills on the how8.com salary calculator so they might apply to an allstar Combo Guard to see where #3 might end up, and applied the necessary training steps to #2

goal for #2:

JS: 13 JR: 12
OD: 15 HN: 12
DV: 9 PA: 12
IS: 2 ID: 4
RB: 1 SB: 6
ST: 5 FT: 8

Nominally a SG, but with good ballhandling skills. I disregarded Driving somewhat, as his low IS will make him more of a spot-up shoother than a good slasher.

if #3 is trained parallelly, this would give:

JS: 14 JR: 9
OD: 15 HA: 12
DV: 10 PA: 12
IS: 5 ID: 5
RB: 5 SB: 1
ST: 5 FT: 9

equally good as a ball-handler, but better inside. Worse with his 3s though.


both of these goals are rather pessimistic; it's quite likely that you'd end up with slightly better players before capping. one level of JS each couldn't hurt, nor would a little more passing.

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173288.3 in reply to 173288.2
Date: 2/1/2011 10:10:06 PM
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I think Star potential is perfectly fine for a guard trainee for a div 5 team.

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173288.5 in reply to 173288.4
Date: 2/2/2011 12:41:58 AM
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One of my trainees is star potential, and that's acceptable at D.V, D.IV, even D.III or D.II.

Here's how I'd train them.

Pressure
One on One
Pressure
Jump Range
Pressure
Passing
Pressure
Jump Shot

repeating that; pressure is the primary OD training, and OD is the slowest to train, so... I train it a lot- 8 of 10 training weeks last season.

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173288.7 in reply to 173288.6
Date: 2/2/2011 8:23:19 AM
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I agree with Manon; training 1on1 is pretty pointless when your guys can't finish their layups. Training Handling will help you more with the TOs while not hurting you too much.

I'd go with the following training plan for now:

pressure
range
pressure
passing
pressure
handling

rinse and repeat. When the other skills are about where you want them to be (JR perhaps a little lower than you want it), train JS.

From: Sib

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173288.8 in reply to 173288.6
Date: 2/2/2011 10:20:58 AM
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Why is every time driving skill comparing to the inside shot? According to the game manual, "driving allows the player to create his own shot without a good pass from a teammate. Better driving creates shots more often and creates better shots on average." There is no word about layups. I have a player with prominent driving and awful inside shot and he is 45% from the field. In fact, I don't remember him to do any shots from the inside. Am I right or I am missing something? (Kobe creates his own shots at the 3pt line as well)

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173288.9 in reply to 173288.8
Date: 2/2/2011 11:05:47 AM
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you are right in my eyes, even when i see driving pretty pointless in the game(i have/had great guards without it and believe the italian Nt isn't training it or haven't trained it a long time).

But i like the training itself which is quite cool, even when you just watch the secondarys^^

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173288.11 in reply to 173288.1
Date: 2/2/2011 11:22:33 AM
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Star potential is fine, driving training is fine; this thread is going way off-topic.

What strikes me more than anything is that the first two guys are gonna be lagging way behind the third guy when it comes to range. So while you're getting that OD up, you should probably also think about sprinkling in some outside shooting here and there. I'm not anyone who should be giving advice about "how" to train guards, but be sure to rotate your training around and you should be fine.

On a side note, I like the levels of SB on both of the 18yos, but that's probably just me


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