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17401.1
Date: 2/27/2008 2:41:53 AM
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Hi there,

I just got my team in BB, kicked out the bad players and am trying to get some trainee's from the market.

My question is really, what should i train in the first week(s)? Is there anything that is very important, when starting off?

I yesterday "watched" my first game live, the team won quite nice with something around 104-84, however i noticed a lot of misses when it came to free throws.. should i train my whole team on free throws or are there other training options, that are way more important at the beginning?

greets

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17401.2 in reply to 17401.1
Date: 2/27/2008 3:18:52 AM
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You should schedule a scrimmage for this week (you have about 10 hours left to do so). In the BB Global (English) forum there is a Thread Called "Scrimmage Ad Thread, look at the latest messages and challenge some of these teams, or leave your own ad.


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17401.3 in reply to 17401.1
Date: 2/27/2008 3:34:00 AM
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Looking at your roster I would say that you have 2 trainable players, Jerome Ess and Ömer Sirma.

Problem with this is that Ômer Sirma is a bit old - max age should be 19 for trainees, and that training Small Forward is much more difficult that training SG or C/PF. As a new player I would go with one of those.

I would buy 3 Centers/PowerForwards and train these in the Center position. I think that it should be possible to get better skilled trainees than your current Centers. I think this is better than training 2 positions in the beginning, as you can afford better trainees.

When finances allow I believe that training 2 positions are better (6 trainees).

For the current week I would look at my 3-4 best players and see what they need the most - stamina or FT. These are the only players you will probably keep for some time.

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17401.4 in reply to 17401.1
Date: 2/27/2008 3:37:23 AM
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Most training in BB is based on minutes played. Most weeks you can play 3 games, 2 league games on Saturday and Tuesday, and a scrimmage on Thursday.

Scrimmages don't bring in any revenue, but they don't have any cost either. But they do give you an opportunity for a 3rd game and more training minutes. A small risk is that players can be injured in a scrimmage.

Team training is a good option to start with since it doesn't depend on playing time, and you missed the Saturday league game this week. FT or stamina or both good choices. A player with "atrocious" FT will make about 10% of his FT. Stamina will help your players play longer in a game. "Game shape" is probably not a good training since players maintain their game shape simply by playing 48-90 minutes each week (outside this range they may lose some game shape).

The downside of team training for a new team is that it may be wasted on players who you fire or sell. When you are looking for players to buy, you probably should check their stamina and FT. Though neither are primary skills, you may end up having to train the entire team to boost the skills of a few laggards. On a new team, almost everyone will lag.

You might want to limit Team Training to certain weeks when you can't play 3 games. One such week is the week of the All Star Game. There is another at the start of the season. Since these are less efficient for position-based training, team training works better those weeks.


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17401.5 in reply to 17401.3
Date: 2/27/2008 3:48:27 AM
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Thanks for the answers so far!

@ Blacksword, i bought 4 guys today/yesterday - Araujo, Klas, da Aquerida and Bendokas.. all 19 years old. But since i am kinda new to this, i honestly don't have a clue how i should train them or in which priority i should let them play in the team.

btw, what coaching do i need to choose, if i want my coach to swap according to my setup on top? (havent read all the introductions threads yet, but i am on it..)

i have a flatmate, who's been playing the game since a month, so i kinda need to catch up ;)

greets

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17401.6 in reply to 17401.1
Date: 2/27/2008 3:48:46 AM
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You can easily train two players per position, and possibly get some training for a 3rd player. This could either be a 3rd player who specializes at the position, or another starter who might also benefit from the additional skills (eg if you are training SG, a PG or SF will also benefit from training in the same skills).

You should focus on training positions rather training a skill. You will definitely want players who have both good offensive and good defensive skills.

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17401.7 in reply to 17401.6
Date: 2/27/2008 5:01:25 AM
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I agree with what jimrtex says….so I won’t repeat the advice he gives, but rather add to that.

SG, SF training in JS, JR, OD, PA, DR, HA
PF training in JS, IS, ID, RE, SB
C training in IS, IS, RE, SB

If you train 1 position you can train 3 players per week (if you have 3 games)

So I would start out by training JS as you can then train your SG, SF and PF.

After a couple of skill ups (max. up to Proficient) I would buy a Point Guard Trainee and train him instead of the Power Forward. Then I would train the other outside skills JR, OD, PA, DR, HA and maybe buy an additional 3 trainees (total of 6) and train 2 spots (PG and SG).

Don’t train any skill too high in the beginning as your wages will be too high (Respectable/Proficient is max), unless you want to sell the player, where you could take the player 1-2 levels higher. (Respectable is a bit low if you want to sell for a good price)

I like my players quite even in the relevant skills if I want to keep him as this is better for performance (IMO), and bump the skills - especially shooting - if you want to sell him. Prices seems to go much higher for good shooters for some reason.

And remember to train OD – good defence is very important for your team performance (you will meet many team that train shooting)

Also….be careful not to spend too much money on players in the beginning. I you train Outside Players just upgrade you Inside Positiions (C, PF) with nice well rounded players. Decent Inside players are very cheap. Just check the Center I have for sale - U don’t have to buy him  - I cannot sell him, even if he would contribute nicely to most new teams. And remember age does not matter on non-trainee positions.



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17401.8 in reply to 17401.3
Date: 2/27/2008 5:13:17 AM
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max age should be 19 for trainees


That ain't true if I have a 18 year old trainee I can train him until he is 23-24 or even more for him to be excellet. For a new team its really hard to afford a 18-19 year old trainee (good one atleast). So buy the best you can, train him for some time, sell for profit and buy a better one ;) 20-22 is ok to train also.

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17401.9 in reply to 17401.8
Date: 2/27/2008 6:09:26 AM
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That ain't true if I have a 18 year old trainee I can train him until he is 23-24 or even more for him to be excellet. For a new team its really hard to afford a 18-19 year old trainee (good one atleast). So buy the best you can, train him for some time, sell for profit and buy a better one ;) 20-22 is ok to train also.


Yes, I agree. 20-22 is ok for a trainee. I also train those, but I only for players that I intend to keep for a while. I think picking the optimal training is much more difficult, than for younger players. Especially now, that younger players are getting at training boost.

I believe, that a nice 19 y.o. trainee is not so high, especially Inside Players are quite cheap. (range: inept/mediocre to average on most relevant skills). With the fast training times it is pretty quick to turn these into very sellable players.

This player would be a decent trainee for a new team. And he was $1500. With a bit more money 1-2 skill could have been a bit higher.

Peng Difang (3231096)
Owner:
Aalborg Warriors

Weekly salary:
$ 2 864
DMI: 8400
Age: 18
Height: 6'3" / 190 cm
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: inept Jump Range: average
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: average
Driving: awful Passing: inept
Inside Shot: atrocious Inside Def.: awful
Rebounding: mediocre Shot Blocking: pitiful
Stamina: average Free Throw: mediocre

Experience: atrocious



Last edited by Blacksword at 2/27/2008 6:58:01 AM

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17401.10 in reply to 17401.7
Date: 2/27/2008 7:04:35 AM
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heya again, cheers for the replies... really helpful!

So I would start out by training JS as you can then train your SG, SF and PF.

How can i train exactly those three? i only get the option to either train 2 of those together or then the whole team. (wingmen, guards etc..)

So the basic strategy at the beginning is basically finding 2-3 solid centers, 2-3 solid PG's and then shuffle and train SG/SF and PF?


Just check the Center I have for sale - U don’t have to buy him  - I cannot sell him, even if he would contribute nicely to most new teams. And remember age does not matter on non-trainee positions.


Sorry, not to familiar yet with inspecting other teams.. if i check your transfer history i only see the completed ones. How much are you selling him for?

Cheers





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17401.11 in reply to 17401.9
Date: 2/27/2008 7:10:10 AM
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i just checked your roster, i see which one you want to sell now.. :)

i have this guy called "Guillaume Waltenspül", which is i supose quite an ok center, additional i have 2 20 year old guys on the center position i intend to give some gametime aswell.. would that be a decent solution?