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175873.1
Date: 2/25/2011 9:27:04 PM
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Do you train players that have below medicre in their skills? For example, has anyone ever trained something like inside def, lets say for centers, and their centers inside defense was below mediocre? This week, i trained outside defense for pg/sg/sf, and two players got popped. pg/sf in outside def.

One player who got 48+ minutes was a pg and he had below mediocre in outside def and he didn't get a pop, he's a year younger than my backup point gaurd who got the pop in outside de, that was respectable, now its strong. With this trainer i averaged 2 pops per week and no less. I can't remember if i had more than two pops with level 4.

So is the case that, when a skill is below mediocre, there's a less chance of a pop in that skill? So is it possible that the sublevels of the pg that didn't get the pop, were too low? Your thoughts.

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175873.2 in reply to 175873.1
Date: 2/25/2011 10:31:38 PM
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Well you can certainly train players that have below mediocre in some of their skills, but many managers don't like that, because it takes some time to get those skills to decent level.

Even if the skill is below mediocre, the rate of training won't slow down. In fact, if a skill is very low (say awful) and other skills are higher, the rate of training that skill will be little higher due to elastic effect.

So yes, your assumption is correct, the sublevel of the PG who didn't get a pop in OD was low.

I train mostly guards, and if I were to get a 18 year old trainee, I wouldn't train a player whose OD, JR, JS, HD and other guard skills are below inept. I'm training a SF, whose passing was awful to start off with, but that's was because other skills were very good and I could spare sometime training passing. So yes it depends on situation, but generally I'd look for players whose primary skills are at, or above mediocre.

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175873.3 in reply to 175873.1
Date: 2/26/2011 7:37:03 AM
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I bought this guy last season (16552989).
When I bought him his ID was awful, and for this reason I was able to get him fairly cheaply.
After a season of training, I had got ID up to average. (This was whilst two posiition training with some IS and RB).
I was able to sell him a year later for $1,100,000. I must stress that all his secondary skills were good (eg JS, OD, PA etc.)
If I had of kept him I'm sure he would be pushing into my first team by now. I think as long as the player has good abilities in the other important skills, it is ok to train a player with less than mediocre. But you have to focus on their weaker skills if you want to make them a great player.

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175873.4 in reply to 175873.3
Date: 2/26/2011 9:41:49 AM
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Well Oliver Ðuričko (11263596) Shooting Guard my star player had awful driving when I started training him and now he is proficient. But it isn't as bad as doing the same with OR or JR.

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175873.5 in reply to 175873.4
Date: 2/26/2011 11:56:56 AM
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Wow thanks, that's nice to know, you guys had some great results.

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175873.6 in reply to 175873.1
Date: 2/26/2011 4:45:59 PM
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Since this is a training question, i'll ask here. What are the benefits of 1 position training, as compared to 2 or 3? Is it speed or something more?

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175873.8 in reply to 175873.6
Date: 2/26/2011 4:56:40 PM
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Yeah, 1 position training is the quickest, then 2, then 3. Some training types eg. rebounding can't be 1 position, so the optimum speed is 2 position. Lowest number of positions = highest speed.

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175873.9 in reply to 175873.6
Date: 2/26/2011 11:28:23 PM
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As far as I can remember, the efficiency of 2 position training would be around 75% of 1 position training. Not sure about 3 position though.
In the long run, 2 position training would be more effective to improve your team overall. Since you're in div V, 2 position training would be recommended IMO.

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175873.11 in reply to 175873.6
Date: 2/27/2011 4:37:52 AM
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Two position gives your team the maximum amount of training in total. You can have 6 guys all getting better. This is great if you are starting out, are in lower divisions or have trainees with low potential. This is what I have always done. Starting next season I will be switching to one position training. This will give you less good players but a couple of great ones and in order to succeed in the higher leagues you need stars!