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From: ClipCap
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177575.1
Date: 3/15/2011 4:25:38 PM
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Does anyone know if they will allow us to decrease the sizes of our Arena again? I have noticed a big change in the attendance & the 20,000 limit seems to be inforced harder than it was before. Even ESV has takens a $25 to $30k hit per home game.
Anyone know?

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177575.3 in reply to 177575.2
Date: 3/15/2011 7:51:34 PM
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Really? It's hard to tell on yours, as your ticket prices are so low for the Capacity you have. I have followed quite a few teams over the past 3 months & there Revenue is definitely decreasing. The top 3 teams in BB are a perfect example.

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177575.5 in reply to 177575.3
Date: 3/15/2011 8:19:36 PM
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I don't see any problem on revenues for top 3 teams (if you mean top 3 by World Rank). Can you share a data from your research?

Last edited by rwystyrk at 3/15/2011 8:20:03 PM

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177575.6 in reply to 177575.5
Date: 3/15/2011 8:47:59 PM
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I will post something tomorrow, really busy at work at the moment. But if you look at say ESV's attendances alone they are down almost 20k, & the Bleacher & Lower Tier splits seem different.
This maybe where I am going wrong, but if you go through there games adding each line for a sum amount, the overall $k is lower consistently compared to figuers from the end of last season\start of this season.
So you are saying that your income per Home game is still around $629k, this is what your mentioned to me in a Post I did last season. Your last home game you made $607k your minus 22k.
I believe your ticket prices have remained the same for the past 2 changes, so you can see a fair comparison.
Maybe I do have it wrong, but your input on what you see from your club would be interesting.
THANKS IN ADVANCE. ;)

Last edited by ClipCap at 3/16/2011 11:22:20 AM

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177575.7 in reply to 177575.6
Date: 3/16/2011 2:34:39 AM
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My tickets are irrelevant as I my last season was very bad (without league and cup title), this is the reason why my max. income is $614k this season. If I win the league title I'm sure my max. income will be back above $630k next season.
If you compare some attendance from 2 games firstly you can be sure how similar or different are the inputs:
- last season performance
- this season performance
- cup run (should be problem for ESV's last game)
- last league game (very important for differences within the season)
- last TV game
- last game with rival
- strenght of opponent's fan (comparing all mentioned points above for his team)
- changes in tickets prices (this should be very important for changes in spliting Bleacher & Lower Tie)
- level of PR manager (this one you can't know without asking the manager)

You can't expect the same results of attendance formula if inputs are quite different.

Last edited by rwystyrk at 3/16/2011 2:42:41 AM

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177575.8 in reply to 177575.7
Date: 3/16/2011 11:14:41 AM
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I understand your point, but would this make a difference.
I have won my last 10 games in a row, 3 against the top 3 teams in my country. I added two big name players, one I just sold after yesterdays game, won my last 2 games (this season) that where on TV. I have beaten my Rival the last 3 times we have played & the team I beat yesterday was the current League Champions I dropped my ticket prices across the board & only saw a 185 attendance increase & actually lost $10k on Revenue. I am Ranked 6th in my country & just entered the top 5000 World, hey I proud of that ;)
It may well be that I am missing something, but given all of the above, I don't know what it would be.
Thanks again for the help & as always look forward to any response.

P.S. How did you get into the B3 without a League or Cup title?

Last edited by ClipCap at 3/16/2011 11:25:24 AM

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177575.9 in reply to 177575.8
Date: 3/16/2011 11:41:05 AM
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You reached the cap for attendance, so problem I see at bleachers price at 17. What were your prices of bleachers for second part of the season and what for first part? I think optimal price for you is 18 or even 19. I think with 18 you would have the same attendance as it was and almost 15k in addition in income.

P.S. I received wild card because new B3 format works just for even number of teams and probably there was odd number of cup, league and previous B3 winners. But nobody confirm on which rule I received a wild card, probably as higher world ranked team which wasn't in B3 by these rules at the start of the season.

Last edited by rwystyrk at 3/16/2011 11:41:24 AM

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177575.10 in reply to 177575.9
Date: 3/16/2011 11:45:55 AM
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They where at 18, but figured lowering them & lower tier would incrase the overall number attending the game, not just shuffle them down to the lower tier
I have already moved them back up to $18 for next season & dropped Lower Tier to $42.
I guess I'll just keep playing with it until I get it right.
Again, thanks for taking the time to post back to me.

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177575.11 in reply to 177575.10
Date: 3/16/2011 6:02:51 PM
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(http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/107402/arena.aspx)
This is example of 23k attendance in league level II :-)