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Date: 4/5/2011 3:32:07 PM
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Please take a look at the following two games (30347339) and (32465633) It is obvious that the engine ran 'twice the same game.

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179505.3 in reply to 179505.2
Date: 4/5/2011 5:00:48 PM
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Last time the BBs said it was a bug. It is also the bug this time I think.

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Date: 4/5/2011 6:56:30 PM
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I'm amused by the fact that although the stats are *exactly* the same, the PP100 for the Φοινικας Καλλιπολης Center was better in 324 compared to 303.

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Date: 4/5/2011 7:15:04 PM
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Now noticed ... strange.

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179505.6 in reply to 179505.5
Date: 4/6/2011 2:37:05 AM
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i have the impression that the number of possible simulations is far to low (i mean the "random" sequences from which the probabilities of all events are based on).
I.e. this 2 games of mine this season seem to have the same simulation: (29614949), (29614903).
Down by 20 or so in first quarter, almost no OR in the first half and then my comeback in the second half, with final victory (in one case even despite an injury). In fact, when the second game I saw that I was losing so bad in the first quarter, I understood I would have eventually won.
Maybe the BBs should do something about it as well.

Last edited by Newton07 at 4/6/2011 2:37:37 AM

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179505.7 in reply to 179505.6
Date: 4/6/2011 8:16:01 AM
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Hard to imagine what kind of software bugs could be related to these "identical games". (earlier commented by BB)

I also believe, unfortunately, that there is not so much random in these simulations. Pure calculation based on player skills, game shapes, enthusiasm...

Is there someone who could confirm that there is a random in simulation?
You should have two consecutive games in the same week (no updates between) against same opponent - both same tactics and same players..... I think also enthusiasm should be normalized for both teams.
So if there are such games with different simulation, I would be glad to see those....





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179505.8 in reply to 179505.7
Date: 4/6/2011 8:45:38 AM
TrenseRI
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We will be looking into the problem. I'll let you know as soon as we have an explanation.

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179505.9 in reply to 179505.8
Date: 4/6/2011 11:31:25 AM
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Another one: (30222352) and (32539111). It does not affect me, but just thinking it could hapens to me...

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179505.10 in reply to 179505.9
Date: 4/14/2011 8:08:50 AM
Młoty Stargard
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It's no bug.
It's the lack of random variables in the match engine.

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/forum/read.aspx?thread=179930&m=1