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179621.1
Date: 4/7/2011 12:34:19 AM
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When a player has strong+ stamina, he won't come out of the game, even if another player is set for backup/reserve and you select Strictly Follow Depth Chart. This should not happen. High stamina should not be a bad thing.

I have two players with strong stamina. I want to train stamina, so some of my other players can get much-needed pops, but I'm afraid of my strong players popping to the dreaded proficient. Training a lower level to a higher level should never hurt your team in a non-financial manner. It's a clear design flaw when proficient stamina means starters refuse to come out of the game.

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179621.2 in reply to 179621.1
Date: 4/7/2011 12:59:07 AM
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I am just browsing through the forums and saw this. I had no idea this happens. As I am set to train stamina and ft during the playoffs and off-season. I have two players that will hit that area if I do and now I am second guessing training the stamina as one is a starter. It won't affect my training in my case.

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179621.3 in reply to 179621.1
Date: 4/7/2011 2:07:29 AM
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i have several player with high stamina, and for me the substituitions always had worked.

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179621.4 in reply to 179621.3
Date: 4/7/2011 2:10:26 AM
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i have several player with high stamina, and for me the substituitions always had worked.


Glad you commented. It seemed odd and I was going to ask around.

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179621.5 in reply to 179621.4
Date: 4/7/2011 4:39:28 AM
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i have several player with high stamina, and for me the substituitions always had worked.


Glad you commented. It seemed odd and I was going to ask around.


Certainly OP is doing something wrong.

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179621.6 in reply to 179621.5
Date: 4/7/2011 6:39:26 AM
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It isn't something wrong per se. The scenario he is describing is true if he has a really strong starter and a really weak backup. No matter how many minutes the starter plays, he will still be better than the backup, hence why the coach keeps him on.

It really has nothing to do with high stamina. If you have a 100k player with atrocious stamina and a 5k player in at backup with proficient stamina, the same thing would happen. (assuming the game is close and there are no other factors like a blowout, etc)

Last edited by Monkeybiz at 4/7/2011 6:39:53 AM

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179621.7 in reply to 179621.6
Date: 4/7/2011 7:10:50 AM
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This problem can be sorted out in a snap, if minute allocation were allowed. It doesn't even have to be exact minutes, a range would do as well. For example Starter -> 35-40, Bench Player -> 10-15. Etc. Substitutions could be made at default times during the game, when the starters get tired, or when the score allows it - to get to that target of the minute range. In a blowout the bench player would play more..

But of course this would make it easier to train players given the training system depends on minutes played. Which, btw, isn't exactly realistic either.

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179621.8 in reply to 179621.7
Date: 4/7/2011 7:58:23 AM
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That would make it too easy. Its OPs own fault if he cant put together a team with decent backups - fix your lineup and minutes wont be an issue anymore.

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179621.9 in reply to 179621.8
Date: 4/7/2011 11:23:32 AM
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Fair enough, as things stand.

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179621.10 in reply to 179621.7
Date: 4/7/2011 2:06:48 PM
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That unnecessarily complicates the game, doesn't it?

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179621.11 in reply to 179621.8
Date: 4/7/2011 2:11:52 PM
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The quality of the backup should be irrelevant! If I'm setting the depth chart, maybe I'd like a scrub to come off the bench and eat minutes, if I'm going to win anyways. Basically the "strictly follow depth chart" option then becomes the "coach picks from depth chart" option.

And are you saying that if the backup is a bad player, the starter won't sub out regardless of stamina? Because this is quite clearly not true. Players with average to bad stamina always sub out, regardless of the quality of the backup. This should be no different for strong and proficient players.