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18393.1
Date: 3/5/2008 5:01:40 AM
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Hi.. Id like to take a look at some games where people have played Princeton (effectively or not so)

When would a team choose to play this? (against what defence?) and what strengths are important for your attacks?

Also what differences between Run & Gun & Motion.. when would you choose one over the other?

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18393.2 in reply to 18393.1
Date: 3/5/2008 6:09:48 AM
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Honestly I didn't find any difference between princeton, run&gun and motion. I've tried run&gun and princeton only in friendly matches but I don't think this can make an huge difference as final result...

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18393.3 in reply to 18393.1
Date: 3/5/2008 6:56:03 AM
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I've asked that sam question three days ago and nobody has answered me, so ive decided to take a chance and try it. I often play motion and ive never tried run and gun. I tried princeton in my last game with take it easy: http://www.buzzerbeater.org/BBWeb/boxscore.aspx?MatchID=2.... My outside shooters are average (JS : JR): PG: 7 8, SG: 8 8, SF: 8 7. Pg has respectable passing skills.

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18393.4 in reply to 18393.2
Date: 3/5/2008 8:12:31 AM
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R&G provides a *lot* more shooting opportunities for me, just look at my last 2 games compared to earlier games played with Motion.

I think that R&G + TIE is a good combo (kinda like CA + PiC in HT).

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18393.5 in reply to 18393.2
Date: 3/5/2008 10:57:10 PM
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the priceton offense is a slow it down grind it out offense for teams that have solid perimeter players with low stamina or is used by a team without a true post presence it uses alot of screens to free up shots from the perimeter and backdoor cuts....to get a better idea of how it works watch a game featuring a ivy league school or a memphis game..since they use elements of the offense....

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18393.6 in reply to 18393.3
Date: 3/6/2008 6:19:43 AM
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I've asked that sam question three days ago and nobody has answered me, so ive decided to take a chance and try it. I often play motion and ive never tried run and gun. I tried princeton in my last game with take it easy: http://www.buzzerbeater.org/BBWeb/boxscore.aspx?MatchID=2.... My outside shooters are average (JS : JR): PG: 7 8, SG: 8 8, SF: 8 7. Pg has respectable passing skills.



did you notice much difference to your RB / ID stats to when you play motion...?

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18393.7 in reply to 18393.5
Date: 3/6/2008 9:05:00 AM
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the priceton offense is a slow it down grind it out offense for teams that have solid perimeter players with low stamina or is used by a team without a true post presence it uses alot of screens to free up shots from the perimeter and backdoor cuts....to get a better idea of how it works watch a game featuring a ivy league school or a memphis game..since they use elements of the offense....


I've watched Princeton since Pete Carril designed this offense and watched U of Richmond coached by a former Princeton assistant run it now. A true Princeton offense is slow, takes a lot of 3 point shots and back door cuts. Everybody takes 3's including the nominal PFs and Cs. In fact an effective Princeton offense depends on the Center and PF being able to step outside and hit an open 3 on a consistent basis. The idea is to make as high a percentage of shots as possible so your opponents (presumed) advantage in rebounding is minimized.

Since at this stage of player development in BB, no one has big men who can consistently hit 3's, using Princeton is a bad choice, IMO. In time, it could work.

Essentially you would need one or two PGs, one or two SGs and two SFs playing up front to make this work.

This all assumes BB has modeled its Princeton option on the way the U of Princeton actually uses it.

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18393.8 in reply to 18393.7
Date: 3/6/2008 9:21:24 AM
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This all assumes BB has modeled its Princeton option on the way the U of Princeton actually uses it.


Several of the BBs are either Princeton grads or matriculate there now, so I'm going to believe that your assumption is correct.

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18393.9 in reply to 18393.8
Date: 3/6/2008 4:18:56 PM
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Put very simply I thought princeton offense avoided mid range shots and went for a mix of dunks (very high percentage inside shot) or 3 pointers (thus great shooters and range are needed in BB for PG, SG and SF but no inside shooting for them). Very very simplified but think that might help.

Run&Gun and Motion I thought were the same offense type in BB just that the speed was alot faster in R&G and thus if you are the favourite you should win as the number of shots taken is higher and the chance of bad luck over a run of say 20 shots is reduced compared to the whole match. A poorer team in a given match, conversly should try and slow the game down so less shots are taken. That's not well explained I know but is late. Hope you can follow the gyst though :-)