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From: malice
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Date: 7/12/2011 12:02:31 AM
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Last off season, Jeff Fox of Hoops Manifesto lead a group that discussed the all time rosters for each franchise. This off season (and it could be a very, very long one), we're starting with Top Ten PGs of all time(http://with-malice.com/articles/nba/10-best-pgs.html)... here's my list:

10. Jason Kidd
9. Gary Payton
8. Steve Nash
7. Nate Archibald
6. Bob Cousy
5. John Stockton
4. Walt Frazier
3. Isiah Thoma
2. Oscar Robertson
1. Magic Johnson

What's yours?

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189417.2 in reply to 189417.1
Date: 8/22/2011 8:21:03 AM
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Not all time but in the '00s

10) Rondo
9) Rose
8) Baron
7) Bibby
6) Williams
5) Arenas
4) Billups
3) Paul
2) Kidd
1) Nash

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189417.3 in reply to 189417.2
Date: 8/22/2011 9:13:34 AM
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Mike Bibby? Baron Davis?
No Tony Parker?!!
Well, if you're including Arenas, then you can include AI. Hell, Andre Miller's better than Bibby/Davis.
I guess my list would look more like:
10) Arenas
9) Billups
8) Rose
7) Rondo
6) Williams
5) Parker
4) Paul
3) Iverson
2) Kidd
1) Nash

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From: CrazyEye

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189417.4 in reply to 189417.1
Date: 8/22/2011 3:16:17 PM
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to answer the initial question

10. Steve nash
9. Gary Payton
8. Tiny Archibald
7. Jason Kidd
6. Bob Cousy
5. Isaih Thomas
4. Walt Frazier
3. John Stockton
2. Oscar Robertson
1. Magic Johnson

you see i use the same players, and in my eyes those ten have few competion, maybe the other Johnson's especially Kevin and maybe AI are on my list.

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189417.5 in reply to 189417.4
Date: 8/22/2011 7:25:19 PM
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What...no love for Curly Neal?

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189417.6 in reply to 189417.5
Date: 8/23/2011 3:48:00 AM
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I totally forgot Parker...
Iverson is a pure shooting guard in my opinion. Simply undersized.
Arenas is more of a combo.

And by the way, Bibby used to be a great player in the start of the decade at Sac-Town. As a Miami fan I was also mad at him (was that an appearance on the POs!!!) but I can't just pass him. He used to be good...

Also, Baron, when motivated, was one of the top 5 athletes in the NBA. And he has a great beard (you know, this is the reason Harden is a superstar)

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Date: 8/24/2011 8:16:53 AM
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i don't like the scoring type of PG as Iversion that much, probadly the reason why i name Nash and Thomas later then the thread starter and iversion was a lot more into that extreme but he was somehow good at it. I am more a fan of Kidd kind of player, who imho had more controll on the game and is strong in the D but less offensiv danger and creativity of nash.

And to find other then the ten isn't that easy, and i believe most list will consist of them so i looked who might be perenial to make it to the list of some users.

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Date: 8/24/2011 8:38:31 AM
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i think such list are mostly compared of impact, which you often see first in 10-20 years after their career. So i have always struggle with player you see recently. Yeah Billups is still a star, but i doubt that you still know him in few years.

And you will never see a matchup betwen Kidd and Cousy, and i wouldn't wonder if even harris will domnianate Cousy but Cousy makes the best of his talents during his era.

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189417.11 in reply to 189417.10
Date: 8/27/2011 8:23:02 PM
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IN my opinion, I'll do a list with best PG's in NBA in this moment:

Mike Bibby 10
John Wall 9
Stephen Curry 8
Rajon Rondo 7
Deron Willians 6
Derek Fisher 5
Russel Westbrook 4
Jason Kidd 3
Steve Nash 2
Derrick Rose 1


Last edited by Saltori at 8/27/2011 8:23:24 PM