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189480.1
Date: 7/12/2011 5:06:29 PM
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If I don't make IV this season, I should make it next season. What I want to know is what do you think is the average level of defense is for each position to be successful in IV. Like in a guard should Outside defense be Proficient, Prolific or what? and the same for all the position. Thank you in advance, you guys have been very very helpful!

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189480.3 in reply to 189480.2
Date: 7/12/2011 5:27:37 PM
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Okay thank you!

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189480.4 in reply to 189480.3
Date: 7/12/2011 5:49:22 PM
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each league is different but I think to be better than average in most leagues you should try to get prolific od for your pg and sg and prolific id for your pf/c. for your sf it depends who you are playing but a decent balance of proficient can't hurt

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189480.5 in reply to 189480.4
Date: 7/12/2011 7:13:39 PM
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PG: Outside D - Proficient (although if he is a great offensive player the lowest I'd go is respectable) Inside D - mediocre

SG: Outside D - Tremendous-Wondrous (Lowest I'd go is prolific) Inside D - mediocre

SF: Outside D - Proficient-Prominent(Lowest I'd go is respectable) Inside D - Proficient-Prominent(Lowest I'd go is strong)

PF: Outside D - Average (Lowest is whatever but you have to be careful and try to hide it) Inside D - Prolific (Don't go any lower, trust me)

C: Outside D - Inept (same as PF) Inside D - Sensational(You could get away with prolific but definitely don't go lower than that)

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189480.6 in reply to 189480.5
Date: 7/12/2011 7:53:18 PM
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Defense, Defense, Defense. Offense don't have to work so hard when Defense steps up!

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189480.7 in reply to 189480.6
Date: 7/12/2011 8:30:11 PM
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I focus my team much more on offense than I do defense.

Great offense always beats great defense in this game. Especially at higher levels. I learned the hard way when I kept losing every game 88-62 my first trip in D.III.

That said, you need at least a GOOD defense to win.

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189480.8 in reply to 189480.7
Date: 7/12/2011 8:47:35 PM
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lol that is not true what so ever, if you play defense , rebound and pass the ball well that puts you 3/4 the way to winning. I also dont think you need tremendous def in div 4 prominent - prolific would get you through the majority of the divisions, unless you get in one of those 2 or 3 that are crazy stacked.

If you look through my div the team with the best offense barely made the playoffs because he cant stop anyone. With that said I do like a balanced team. I dont have a superstar that way no team can say focus on my guards because if you do my center and pf will kill you.

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189480.9 in reply to 189480.5
Date: 7/12/2011 8:51:47 PM
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I think this is very exaggerated. You probably don't need this much defense even for a championship team.

I think an above than average team goes something like this:

PG:
OD 8-10 ID 3-5

SG:
OD 9-11 ID 3-5

SF:
OD 8-9 ID 5-7

PF:
OD 5-7 ID 8-10

C
OD: 3-5 ID 9-11

As long as you have solid rebounding and manage enthusiasm/GS well, you should be fine with this. It should make playoffs in most leagues. Additionally, an extra guard with 13+ OD could really help your team shut down the high salary guys you'll see on some teams, but in no way are they necessary to make playoffs.

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189480.10 in reply to 189480.9
Date: 7/12/2011 8:56:43 PM
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I agree those numbers earlier in the thread are really high. Sure, it would be great, but not essential.

I'm probably in an easy DIVIV, but I just ran through it in first place and have the league's #1 defense.

PG: 11OD/5ID
SG: 7/3
SF: 9/7
PF: 5/11
C: 3/11

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189480.11 in reply to 189480.7
Date: 7/12/2011 9:01:51 PM
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My theory is that defense is cheaper and more reliable than spending all that cash just for your offense to have an off-night. Any great offense can win games but usually the champions are teams that bring the great defense. It goes without saying, and I know it sounds cliche, but offense wins games, but defense wins championships. However, above all else, it's better to field a team that is cohesive offensively and defensively because whenever one has an off-night, the other needs to step up.

My opinion is that it never hurts to field a defensive team. In the world of BB, it's cheaper to build around defense first followed up with complimenting that defense with offensive skills.