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From: shikago
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Date: 8/5/2011 2:21:13 AM
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In my cup game I only had 8 players active & had "strictly follow depth chart" set. I had 1 defensive switch: SG defending C, & C defending SG. This seems to have caused a problem...? The PG & SG were set as starter, backup, & reserve. While the SF,PF, & C each were set as starter & backup, with a separate bench guy as the reserve.

What happened makes no sense -- the center ended up playing all 48 minutes!?! (the only player to do so) The reserve center for some reason subbed in at SG. played 20 seconds there. Then played the final 14 minutes of the game at PG???

why did "strictly follow depth chart" not even remotely work? I checked for any mistake with "Load Former Match Tactics"... There was no user error. That's why I think it might have been the switches. (The SG was supposed to play all game & was defending the C. The C wasn't supposed to play all game.)

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193344.2 in reply to 193344.1
Date: 8/5/2011 2:34:10 AM
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Blah, just to make it less confusing:

(Starter / Backup / Reserve)
PG: Player1 / Player1 / Player1
SG: Player2 / Player2 / Player2
SF: Player3 / Player3 / Player6
PF: Player4 / Player4 / Player7
C: Player5 / Player5/ Player8

This was strictly follow depth chart, 8 players active, and all assigned to the depth chart. Player8 did not play a single second at C. Player8 was subbed in at SG, played 20 seconds, then switched to PG for the final 14 minutes. Why did this happen?

Total Minutes
Player1 - 37 minutes
Player2 - 45 minutes
Player3 - 34 minutes
Player4 - 34 minutes
Player5 - 48 minutes

This makes no sense. I get Player2 getting pulled a few minutes (lowest stamina & skills), but why was the depth chart completely ignored in garbage time?

Last edited by shikago at 8/5/2011 2:35:17 AM

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193344.3 in reply to 193344.2
Date: 8/5/2011 5:01:40 AM
TrenseRI
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First of all, let me just say that I don't have an acceptable explanation. But let me try and figure out what happened anyway. Can you post the stamina levels of your players? Sometimes that has a pretty big effect on the player changes.
Also, I noticed your starters played 34 minutes and then the reserves entered, when you had +31. It's very weird, I agree, since your PG didn't have one foul nor was injured.

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193344.4 in reply to 193344.3
Date: 8/5/2011 6:44:56 AM
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Thanks for the reply.

It's very weird, I agree, since your PG didn't have one foul nor was injured.

PG was good enough to come in at SG for a few minutes, late in the 4th quarter!

Well, my starting SG (Player2) has awful stamina & being subbed out for a brief rest is expected. But that doesn't explain why the reserve center didn't even play 1 second at center! PG has decent stamina. Last season I accidentally used "let coach decide" & he still played all 48 minutes!

3 things that make it even stranger to me:
#1 The starting C & the reserve C were both out of position PGs (set to defend the SG position). It's not as if the coach had to put in a worse outside defender. & neither has great offensive center skills...
#2 My starting PG was an actual true PG, & not a complete scrub.
#3 The coach respected the starter & backup settings until garbage time. Why would he go rogue all of a sudden with reserves?

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193344.5 in reply to 193344.4
Date: 8/5/2011 7:05:16 AM
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I don't know at this time why this has happened. I'll have to ask around a little to see if any other dev has some idea.

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193344.7 in reply to 193344.6
Date: 8/9/2011 7:37:26 AM
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Thanks. But wow, are you sure about the reserve spots? It used to work fine in the past when I set reserves...

Also, if I left the 3rd spots empty then wouldn't it be out of my control who gets subbed out in garbage time? I wanted 2 players to play all 48 (or as much as stamina allowed) & the 3 reserves to get 12+ minutes at non-training positions. (when inserted in garbage time). I never remember the coach completely ignoring orders like this before. I only posted this here because I'm wondering if the defensive switch might have caused it. (Can't think of any other reason.)

BTW, about the training -- what I always found weird was a guy getting outside defense training, when playing PG on only offense!