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194420.1
Date: 8/17/2011 11:24:03 AM
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I recently purchased a player with proficient (9) stamina. He plays excellently all game (61 points last game), but he never gets subbed even with a decent backup. I know the coach is trying to win the game at all costs, but it doesn't seem realistic that the coach doesn't take the long view. In real life, the Kobe Bryants of the world don't play 48 minutes per game because their coaches realize that it would be counter productive in the long run. Obviously exceptions are made for playoffs etc, but the coaches realize that regular season games just aren't worth destroying players.

Why can't BB reflect this? Is there anything I can do (other than buying another 60k player as a backup) to have my player log fewer minutes?

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194420.2 in reply to 194420.1
Date: 8/17/2011 11:31:50 AM
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Put him on the bench if you have an easy game and make the coach play according to your preferences could help.

From: rcvaz

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194420.3 in reply to 194420.1
Date: 8/17/2011 11:34:27 AM
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Have you tried the "Strictly Follow Depth Chart" instruction? Even if it's a little bent by the fact that the starter is much better than the backup, it can bring his minutes down to ~38

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194420.6 in reply to 194420.3
Date: 8/17/2011 1:20:08 PM
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Have you tried the "Strictly Follow Depth Chart" instruction? Even if it's a little bent by the fact that the starter is much better than the backup, it can bring his minutes down to ~38


Pace will also have an effect: Slower pace will take less effort

I normally Play patient with Strictly Follow Depth Chart. One of my players with proficient and or prominent stamina still puts up around 40+ minutes. My backup has a salary almost twice that of the starter. Last 4 games: 47, 42, 41, 47 minutes

Last edited by DoG at 8/17/2011 1:22:39 PM

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194420.7 in reply to 194420.2
Date: 8/17/2011 3:19:49 PM
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Yeah, I think that will work in the context of this game, but it is only the best of a set of bad options.

Essentially, it would sound like this:
Phil Jackson (to Kobe): "Oh, sorry Kobe, I don't know how to give you 35 minutes as a starter, so I am going to have you come off of the bench. It's for your own good!"



From: Mzungu77

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194420.8 in reply to 194420.3
Date: 8/17/2011 3:20:37 PM
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I only use strictly follow depth chart. With patient, it gave my guy 48 minutes last game

From: rcvaz

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194420.9 in reply to 194420.8
Date: 8/17/2011 3:47:36 PM
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That's odd then. I've never had such a difference between starter and backup, but for instance in this game

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/35961083/boxscore.aspx

One of the players (the one with 15.5 rating) is waaaaay better than the backup, and he only played 37 mins in a loss

From: Tangosz

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194420.10 in reply to 194420.9
Date: 8/17/2011 3:50:29 PM
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Yeah, that's my experience too. If you're doing strictly follow depth chart, and you list a starter and backup for each position, you'll get in the range of 34-37 minutes for the starter, with the rest for the backup, when you loose (or the score is close).

If it's a blowout win, then it depends on when the garbage time kicks in. Typically I see 28 min starter/20 min backup, but I've also seen 25/23 split

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194420.11 in reply to 194420.7
Date: 8/17/2011 3:50:46 PM
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Essentially, it would sound like this:
Phil Jackson (to Kobe): "Oh, sorry Kobe, I don't know how to give you 35 minutes as a starter, so I am going to have you come off of the bench. It's for your own good!"

Very often difference between starters and bench players in typical club in BB is very very higher than difference between Kobe and the worst player in NBA. Maybe here is answer.
All players in NBA are better than 99,9% players on whole world (and I suppose number of nines after comma should be higher). Meanwhile in BB very often bench player has skills like children in kindergarten.