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Today I had a WO in a PL game(36144435) and it seems really weird that the minutes don't make sense at all.

First of all, the sum of all players' minutes isn't 240, what should obviously happen.

Some positions are also really screwed, like, I've got two guys summing up for 75 SG minutes, I know this can happen if one of them played less than half their time in some other position or whatever, but that happens for every position, they're all way above 48 or way down.

As this wasn't a league game, I can't know for sure which position they played and for how long, but if something like that happens in league games, it could create some kind of lack of balance in training and GS and also bring even more unpredictability for WOs, which have been a cause of concern for a long time. Maybe game minutes and positioning should at least resemble what was defined in the lineup set for that match.

The problem is that walkovers do not necessarily give 48 minutes per position. What I've found from the forums and some experimentation:

Normally, the starter gets 36, the reserve 10 and the backup gets 2. If one player is set to starter, reserve and backup, he gets 43 minutes instead and five minutes are "lost". (This applies even if he's at three different positions, like staring SF/backup PF/reserve C, incidentally).

I found that a backup at two different positions (pg/sg in my case) will get 20 minutes, so no minutes lost there. A player that is a backup at 1 position and reserve also gets 12 minutes, and I had a guy backup one position and be reserve at two positions and get 14.

My best guess is that if a player listed as a starter is also played as a reserve or backup at any other position then he 'loses' five starter minutes, but I haven't had the opportunity to play a known walkover team since last season. In any case, there is some sort of rationality to this normally.

Of course, I have no earthly idea how you ended up with the minute distribution you ended up with. Maybe a blanked lineup? Or maybe the PL engine doesn't handle minutes on WO the same way since there's no training involved?

Did you actually set a lineup or did you just nominate the players for the game and let the coach decide the lineup?

I got some funny minutes just choosing players for a game and let the coach absolutely free hands with where the players should play and it ended up like this: (35642980) Actually they got the minutes they really played during the WO-game.

I've set up a specific and complete lineup with follow strictly, this was really unexpected.

Maybe that's something in PLs, that was my first thought, but surely this is a nice case of study :)