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Fix the coach rotation !

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From: Cydius
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Date: 9/8/2011 4:34:18 PM
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I set strictly follow the depth chart, my PG Florian Cellier as Starter Sub 1 and Sub 2
Nelson Rattlif Sub1 as SG

My PF (with no sub) has been fouled out and my coach put my PG as PF and my sub SG as PG. Yeah nice way to strictly follow my orders ^^ He should have put my SG sub as PF

Thanks to this coaching my PG is 4 minutes short for his training when i have 4 useless minutes.

Minutes are hard to manage for the training and the gameshape, it shouldn't be that hard to have a coach doing the right rotation or choice. Seems to me that everytime your coach has to do something he will make the dumbest choice...

From: Manouche

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Date: 9/8/2011 6:47:49 PM
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To be fair, you didn't give any order in case your PF had to be subbed so there was no order to follow.

The coach AI tried to put the best team on court like if you had used 'let coach decide' since SFDC had become unusable.
Not the best choice for training but probably the best choice for team efficiency. The coach ignores training by design.

From: Cydius

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196029.3 in reply to 196029.2
Date: 9/8/2011 7:06:48 PM
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I did give specific orders, Florian Cellier as only PG and for the 3 spots and i can't give orders on how to deal with injury or player with 6 fouls.

I can understand if you are in a close game that the coach will do everything to win. But when i'm up by 40 points he has to follow my orders and never put starter in the wrong position to put a sub in priority.


From: Manouche

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i can't give orders on how to deal with injury or player with 6 fouls.


You can by listing subs :)

I was only saying it's not a bug and working as intended ;)

From: Cydius

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196029.5 in reply to 196029.4
Date: 9/9/2011 1:44:14 PM
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Yeah but if you list subs it's for the all game not only for injuries or fouls so no you can't give orders for that.
Lineup is very limited, it's intended and i get that but the coach has to be logical and smart. He should be able to adapt the rotation in any case and not be in a robotical way.

In a scrimmage with +40 he shouldn't change the starters because he wants to have the best lineup especially when you give him specific orders.

The coach has to be smarter because the game asks all managers to be very precise in the way they handle everything so the tools we have must allow that kind of management.

From: Mix
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196029.6 in reply to 196029.5
Date: 9/26/2011 3:49:31 PM
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This thread seemed appropriate for an issue I had in my last game that was related to substitutions. My substitutions were set to Strictly Follow Depth Chart. I ran a 10 player rotation with the 5 backups/reserve slots set to their corresponding player with no cross assignments.

Everything seemed fine until the 4th when my starters never came back into the game. Not for one minute in entire quarter did they make step onto the court. I've never seen that before. I had no injuries and no other strange circumstances. We were up by over 20 but I didn't think that would matter if I set to Strictly Follow. It wouldn't have changed the outcome of the game except for perhaps a larger margin of victory but it did flub my minutes and take down the averages of my starters. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.

Occurrence in Viewer:
http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/36253541/reportmatch.as...
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Last edited by Mix at 9/26/2011 3:53:08 PM

From: Kukoc

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196029.7 in reply to 196029.6
Date: 9/26/2011 4:15:03 PM
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Every time you lead by 20 in the 4-th quarter, your Coach subs out the starters to protect them from injuries. The blowout rule goes into effect, nomatter what orders you set for coach, he will still protect the starters. If you want your players to play 48 minutes, you have to set 5-9 players for the game (depending on the number of players you want to get 48 minutes for). With let them play, decent stamina and setting subs at reserve spot, might net you 36 mins before the blowout rule comes into effect.

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Date: 9/26/2011 7:58:04 PM
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Thank you. I can now find the related threads. Big help.