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197729.1
Date: 10/3/2011 2:38:30 PM
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Hi mates!
The title almost explains everything. There is no entry on wikipedia about BB, and that's a shame. I spoke to BB-Marin about this issue and he told me that there was an entry years ago, but it got deleted (don't know why).

So, since BB is surely worth being on wikipedia (like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hattrick), I think that it would be nice to build up a complete article together here on the forums. After that, willing users may translate it in their language (and put it on the wikipedia of their country).
Do not worry about wikipedia, I'll convert our final work into "wikilanguage" and put it on wikipedia myself, just write ideas and make the article grow here in this thread.

Hope many people will help... and if some native speakers could help with grammar and general mistakes, that would be great! :)


PS to MODs/GMs: At first I was opening this thread in the suggestion forum, but I think this place is more appropriate. Feel free to move it where you think it belongs, I couldn't decide.

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197729.2 in reply to 197729.1
Date: 10/3/2011 2:38:56 PM
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I think the outline should be the following:

Small introduction
History
When and where the game was born, who created it, what the major changes over time (perhaps nations added later, game engine changed), etc...
Basics
Basic explanations on how the game works. Maybe subsections needed (such as "national cup", "Div I league", etc)?
Maybe a "changes" section if we don't want to list the changes in the previous "history" section?
Palmares/Winners
*subsection about world's champions
*subsection about U21 world's champions
*subsection about BBB champions
Reception and/or Awards
Reception by the community and awards of BB (if any)

ideas, suggestions?

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197729.3 in reply to 197729.2
Date: 10/3/2011 5:21:10 PM
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I was working on it. How I can upload a file of more than 3000 words and more 28000 characters? I picked the winners of B3, World and continental tournaments, but is still incomplete and I left a little off. (Sorry for my English).

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197729.4 in reply to 197729.3
Date: 10/3/2011 6:07:22 PM
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Great! You haven't to upload anything, just copy-paste what you think we need.

I think the look should be like:

BBB
Season - Winner - Loser - Score
16 - VS - Secret Agents - 102:83

World/Continental Championship Tournament
Season - Winner - Loser - Score - Host - 3rd and 4th place
16 - Poland - Chile - 111 : 89 - Poland - Italia/USA

With the winner in bold.
Then on wikipedia everything will be put in a table.

Last edited by Biffo (*DT Member) at 10/3/2011 6:08:03 PM

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197729.5 in reply to 197729.1
Date: 10/4/2011 1:55:19 AM
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I spoke to BB-Marin about this issue and he told me that there was an entry years ago, but it got deleted (don't know why).

found this: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_delet...). It explains why it got deleted in 2008.



ideas, suggestions?

I think before writing it, you should try to make sure it won't just get deleted again. Maybe find sources, links, reviews...? I saw that there was a 2nd entry made & deleted in 2010. So be aware of that!

and put it on the wikipedia of their country

Strange, but there are BuzzerBeater entries in other languages that haven't been deleted. (the Spanish entry was started 3 years ago).
Spanish: (http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzzerbeater)
Hungarian(?): (http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzzerbeater)
Maybe it would be easier to translate the relevant parts to English? Then add more to it later. I could handle the Spanish to English if no one else wants to do it. The Hungarian... you're on your own!

Off topic -- Can Italian speakers understand written Spanish? (for example, I can't write or speak Portuguese, but can read & understand it.) Just curious.


Last edited by shikago at 10/4/2011 1:56:04 AM

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197729.6 in reply to 197729.5
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Off topic -- Can Italian speakers understand written Spanish? (for example, I can't write or speak Portuguese, but can read & understand it.) Just curious.


I'd say so. My brother just went to Spain some day ago, and he just spoke Italian during the whole time :P

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197729.7 in reply to 197729.6
Date: 10/4/2011 3:23:25 AM
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I'd say so. My brother just went to Spain some day ago, and he just spoke Italian during the whole time


I'm sorry, but I just can't see how a guy from Italy can say that. I speak Italian pretty fluently and I know Italian is pretty different from Spanish. I would like to see an Italian with no knowledge of Spanish to read and actually understand a wikipedia entry in Spanish.

On topic: I think it's a great idea and would like to help a bit (can't put more time into it unfortunately), maybe in reviewing, adding something...

From: gerter

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197729.8 in reply to 197729.7
Date: 10/4/2011 3:46:02 AM
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actually I can say you that I've had a look into the Spanish page of Buzzerbeater, I don't know nothing of Spanish (really), but knowing the game I can understand all the articles, also because many Spanish word are very similar to Italian.
example:
"En el que el jugador administra su propio club de baloncesto. Actualmente compuesto por 94 ligas nacionales, traducido a 40 idiomas y con más de 56.500 entrenadores y equipos de todo el mundo"
"Nel quale (ref to the previous sentence) il giocatore amministra il suo proprio club di pallacanestro. Attualmente composto da 94 campionati nazionali, tradotto in 40 lingue comn più di 56.500 allenatori e squadre di tutto il mondo".

And really I don't speak nothing of Spanish

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197729.9 in reply to 197729.8
Date: 10/4/2011 3:56:23 AM
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Well yes, because you know the context. But if I asked you what "idiomas" was, would you know it was "players"? And it all gets even harder when listening to Spanish and trying to understand it. Anyway, we're way off topic, so I won't discuss it anymore, sorry

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197729.10 in reply to 197729.9
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completely agree on being off topic, anyway "idiomas" means "languages" not "players" :-)..have a nice day

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197729.11 in reply to 197729.10
Date: 10/4/2011 4:24:51 AM
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Ummm... I've got this:

B3

With 4:
1. Cornaggia. (player=687892) (Seasons: 6*, 7, 8 y 9, with BC Törööö).
2. Marcum. (player=2591361) (Seasons: 6, 7, 8 y 9, with BC Törööö).
3. Neacsu. (player=3187235) (Seasons: 6, 7, 8* y 9, with BC Törööö).
4. Viniambres. (player=2284837) (Seasons: 6, 7, 8 y 9, with BC Törööö).
5. Vyberal. (player=2566326) (Seasons: 6*, 7, 8 y 9, with BC Törööö).

With 3:
6. Oberotner. (player=377541) (Seasons: 6, 7 y 8, with BC Törööö).
7. Steinfurth. (player=2268204) (Seasons: 6, 7 y 8*, with BC Törööö).

With 2:
8. Debergh. (player=833001) (Seasons: 6* y 7*, with BC Törööö).
9. Johnson. (player=677259) (Seasons: 6 y 7, with BC Törööö).
10. Noya. (player=3142964) (Seasons: 6 y 7, with BC Törööö).
11. Silves. (player=4726855) (Seasons: 12 with Los Dragones; 14 con BK TUKUMS).
12. Sopko. (player=3198281) (Seasons: 13, with Nitra Corgons; 16, con Venomous Scorpions).
13. Stuivenberg. (player=2419140) (Seasons: 7* y 8, with BC Törööö).
14. Vasco da Gama. (player=2574173) (Seasons: 7 y 8*, with BC Törööö).

With 1:
15. Ardiles. (player=4568780) (Season: 10, with Sharman Flamethrowers).
16. Azcarate. (player=4548374) (Season: 14, with BK TUKUMS).
17. Bagazgoitia. (player=5733901) (Season: 13, with Nitra Corgons).
18. Bartulins (player=14586644) (Season: 16*, with Venomous Scorpions).
19. Caridi. (player=902348) (Season: 11, with ESV Laim).
...Continue...

-Leading scorer in the final: Neacsu (player=) (41 puntos). Season X, for win/lose.
-Rebounding in the final: Drunek (29 rebounds: 7 O, 22 D). Season X, for win/lose.
-Maximum assistance in the final: Plato y Swiatczak (10). Season X, for win/lose.
-Maximum triple jumper in the final: Neacsu (11 triples, 11/14). Season X, for win/lose.
-Maximum blocks in the final: Meseguer (5) Season X, for win/lose.
-Maximum recovery in the final: Croissant (5). Season X, for win/lose.
-High note: Tapia (20), season 16, for win.

WORLD TOURNAMENT
With 3:
1. Giuletti. (player=676537) (Seasons: 4*, 6 y 10, with Italia).
2. Lipparini. (player=676015) (Seasons: 4, 6 y 10*, with Italia).
3. Porzionato. (player=802198) (Seasons: 4, 6* y 10, with Italia).

With 2:
4. Alinari. (player=2254389) (Seasons: 4 y 6*, with Italia).
5. Brodolini. (player=2530244) (Seasons: 4* y 6*, with Italia).
6. Ciglione. (player=) (Seasons:).
7. Cisquell. (player=) (Seasons: 8 y 12*, with España).

...Continue...

And with continental tournaments (Europe, Asia, Africa & Oceania and America).

PT: * Means that this season the player did not play minutes in the final.