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I have 8 Centers. Of my 15 Players, I have 0 Power Forwards. Naturally, I put my extra Centers at Power Forward (and one with a unique Skill Set at Small Forward).

My question is, is there any way I can change... or will it change on it's own... the 'Listed Position' of a Player?

The main reason I ask is because this is killing me when it comes to Training. I figured I have 8 Centers, so I'd Train Centers in the hope that at least one of the eight would catch a pop. Strength in numbers. Then it only showed 3 Centers with Minutes in that Week's Game... I figure the only 3 that actually played Center in the Game.

If I could get the Positions listed properly, it would make it alot easier and much more logical.

As it stands, it LOOKS like I can take (for instance) a PG and 'Start at C'... and he'd get the Center Training for that week. (Not sure why one would do that, but certain combinations like this would be beneficial). Since the main person I want to train is the Converting SF I am now adjusting my Training to One on One, Forwards (This should help my C playing SF and the SF backing him up, and should help the Centers playing at PF).

So, is there any way I can adjust the Position on the Player Card, and am I doing this Training right to target the correct players now? Any help with this issue would be great. Thanks!

Just because the position on the player card says X doesn't mean that you have to play him at X. The only reason it says that is because the highest salary is at X. For example of my players is called a SF but he's a natural PF.
Here's a very simple posistional breakdown to help you decide who should play what position.
PG: JS, PA OD
SG: JS, JR, OD
SF (netural): JS, OD, IS, ID
PF: IS, JS, ID, RB
C: IS, ID, RB, SB



Last edited by Ralph54 at 10/17/2011 1:39:28 AM

As it stands, it LOOKS like I can take (for instance) a PG and 'Start at C'... and he'd get the Center Training for that week.

You are correct, it's exactly like that.

Then it only showed 3 Centers with Minutes in that Week's Game... I figure the only 3 that actually played Center in the Game.

Again, you are correct. If you train one-position on C, there is only 3x48 minutes available to players. Since 24 minutes doesn't equal half of training, but less, it's strongly recommended that you don't split your minutes between your players, but have only 3 of them get 48 minutes. Which brings us to...

Strength in numbers.

There can be only 5 players at once on court, so you don't gain much by training 8 players at once. Actually you lose, because your centers will train slower than the ones that receive full 48 minutes. You can argue that you will create great backups, but backups play 12-15 minutes...do you really want to maintain two centers with same salary only because you want to have great backup?

Furthermore, only games in playoff and cup count. You can lose a bunch of games in regular season and come fourth, but then if you win the championship, who cares if you were 1st seed or 4th seed? It's true you had to have much better team to overcome home advantage of your opponents if you were 4th seed, but it can be done. So you don't need "great backups" to win every game; you need them for few crucial games/season and that's it. For those crucial games, you can train either RB for PF/C to let your two best centers play together, or have a team training.

but backups play 12-15 minutes...do you really want to maintain two centers with same salary only because you want to have great backup?

Well my starting PG only averaged under 23 minutes per game for the season. & my most expensive player all season ($84k) only averaged 28 minutes a game. & I started him every game he played. (9301981)

so for me backups played a lot of minutes. example: my backup C played 23 minutes a game (9634279), backup PF played 25 minutes a game, and backup PG played 23 minutes per game.

And my backups always played the same amount of minutes, even in "important" games. (tv games, rivalry games, games to decide home court for the playoffs...)

Can you tell us what stamina have those two players?

He had a lot of blowout games which would explain his backups having such high average minutes.

He had a lot of blowout games which would explain his backups having such high average minutes.

no...
(36158003) a recent 2pt win. my starting PF got injured 20 secs in, yet my most expensive player still only had 34 minutes. backup PF - 33 min, backup C - 31 min. minutes breakdown for guards: 31,28,22,18

(36157971) 7 point win. starting PG 25 minutes, backup PG 24 min. Backup PF - 23 min, Backup C - 20 min.

so blowouts aren't the answer.

Just cut the team down to 7. 5 to Train, and 2 Vets that have some skills. Will probably have a high Draft Pick coming in, since I inhierited a 7th Placed Big 8 Team in V League. So that will be 6-7 (2nd Rounder lucky?) to cycle through training. Really need a young SG, so here's hoping for that.

Got one player I will move around to make sure he's training every time, will probably use 2 Position Training to keep more guys getting the Training needed. Now it's just figuring out the right cycle for them, and if I start Inside or Outside first. Inside more than likely, as PG and SF are the only 2 'smalls' and the SF is the one I will move around to make sure he trains.

Going over the guides again (5th time) and setting the Line Ups more for Training than an actual 1st, 2nd and 3rd Squad is helping it to make sense. Still want to win, but with 12 Men two of then only saw like 5 Minutes and didn't really do much in that time (projected against real teams, not 'No Names') so I can see 10 being fine. 7 may be pushing my luck, but we'll try it and see... after all the Draft is coming up not so long from now. Can be back to 10 in no time. :D

Also, another question. The key is to get 48 Minutes a Week. I do 2 Position Training (Right now, Forwards One on One).

The question is, once I get my Starting SF and PF there 48 (which CAN be done in one game) and get the Back Up SF and PF close to 48 Minutes with the second game (Scrimmage that won't matter if I win or lose)... I can then take my PG and C and play them at SF and PF for a game to grab Training Minutes?

I might not get all 5 Prospects a full 48 this way, but my Starting SF (Meert) and PF (Chestnut) should get 48 easy, with Back Up SF (Morrissey) and PF (M. Waugh) grabbing the bulk in the next game. Then C (Mark) can take PF while (Chestnut) takes his C and PG (Hanson) can take SF while (Meert) runs the Point.

If I do this right, and no one comes out (Fouls, Injuries) then I just got Starter SF (Meert), Starter PF (Chestnut), Starter C (Mark), Starter PG (Hanson), Back Up Power Forward/Center (Waugh) all 48 Minutes (with the actual SF/PF types getting this easily) and even get the Vetern 30 Year Old Morrisey 48 as well.

In this way, all 5 Prospects get Full Training (and an old guy) for the Week... and Forward One On One isn't bad for Guards since it can help Driving, Inside Scoring which a Guard can use. Sounds like a legit plan... just want to make sure it works.

And since the Biggest Risk is Hanson to SF with Meert at PG for a Game (probably Scrimmage) and Morrissey at PF with some big guy out at SF (again, probably the Scrimmage) it shouldn't affect the games I need to try to win in.

Now the problem will be getting all 5 to train when I need to do Guard stuff for Hanson/Meert... eck!

That does work, the issue is that you need to decide right now if you want to train bigs or guards- It is reasonable to train one on one for forwards as you have suggested, as training IS is really good for all players, even for guards it's valuable if you want to play Look Inside or Low Post. But if you want to focus on bigs, you'll want to train rebounding and inside defense as well, which is C/PF (or just C for ID) rather than PF/SF, and you'll want to play bigs in your league games to do that. If you train guards you'll need to train Passing and Pressure (for OD) and you'll need them to play PG or PG/SG for that. Training passing on big men is good for them, but quite slow and requires playing them out of position. So I would decide right now which I'm going to focus on, and then only focus on one group or the other, and selling the trainees from the group you aren't training and buying veterans to fill in for those positions.

The question is, once I get my Starting SF and PF there 48 (which CAN be done in one game) and get the Back Up SF and PF close to 48 Minutes with the second game (Scrimmage that won't matter if I win or lose)... I can then take my PG and C and play them at SF and PF for a game to grab Training Minutes?

That will work fine. :)

I might not get all 5 Prospects a full 48 this way, but my Starting SF (Meert) and PF (Chestnut) should get 48 easy, with Back Up SF (Morrissey) and PF (M. Waugh) grabbing the bulk in the next game. Then C (Mark) can take PF while (Chestnut) takes his C and PG (Hanson) can take SF while (Meert) runs the Point.

If you play "Stricly Follow Depth Chart" and have your trainees at Starter, Back-up and Reserve they will all play 48 mins. Unless They foul-out or get injured.

If I do this right, and no one comes out (Fouls, Injuries) then I just got Starter SF (Meert), Starter PF (Chestnut), Starter C (Mark), Starter PG (Hanson), Back Up Power Forward/Center (Waugh) all 48 Minutes (with the actual SF/PF types getting this easily) and even get the Vetern 30 Year Old Morrisey 48 as well.

Your catching on. :)

In this way, all 5 Prospects get Full Training (and an old guy) for the Week... and Forward One On One isn't bad for Guards since it can help Driving, Inside Scoring which a Guard can use. Sounds like a legit plan... just want to make sure it works.

:D !!!!!

Now the problem will be getting all 5 to train when I need to do Guard stuff for Hanson/Meert... eck!

What you could do is when you train PG/SG stuff play your insiders in the scrim. This means that it won't effect your league posistion. (Since you have 3 inside players you'll have to play one in a league game sadly).




Last edited by Ralph54 at 10/18/2011 3:53:02 AM