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From: VitB6
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Date: 10/18/2007 5:43:46 AM
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Just started 2 weeks ago. Started with $100,000. I now have $120,000. I have cut my roster down to 12 players. I have not bought any players. I have hired a level 5 trainer. Even after I have been getting the noob $50,000 I am only making $10,000 per week spending no money on anything. Once that $50,000 disappears, I'll be bankrupt 4 weeks after.

I know every team starts off the same, but the way I see it, I will be bankrupt in 6 weeks. What can I do to make sure that I will have money to sustain my team?

Advice please!

TIA!

- Vit

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1992.2 in reply to 1992.1
Date: 10/18/2007 6:21:07 AM
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Like you said, every team starts off the same. You'll have league game revenue and TV game revenue coming next season. The TV game revenue is quite a bit. Train your players, sell them, and be smart. You'll be fine.

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1992.3 in reply to 1992.2
Date: 10/18/2007 10:25:28 PM
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Won't he be getting another 2 weeks of 50K income also?

"Well, no ones gonna top that." - http://tinyurl.com/noigttt
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1992.4 in reply to 1992.2
Date: 10/19/2007 7:46:18 PM
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So my money relies on TV game revenue once or twice a season? That doesn't make much sense. Another thing that doesn't make much sense is that I came in 2nd place last season and had a home playoff game. Total attendence was 945 fans, out of 5,000 capacity. Total money amounted to a measley $9,000. Why wasn't it sold out? Home playoff game. When was the last time a home playoff game wasn't sold out? I had more people in the regular season come to the games than I did for a playoff game. How is that possible?

And even with the 2 more week of $50,000, I'm only netting like $5,000 per week, because I pay my team salary over $30,000 my staff over $10,000. I only get $1,000 for merchandise and practically nothing for scrimmages. Like I said, I can see myself bankrupt in 4 or 5 weeks. I can't buy players (because I can't afford them). I can't sell anyone, because my players aren't good enough to sell for much of anything. I can't get enough merchandising revenue to make a dent in my economy. I won't have a league game for a few weeks and when I do my revenue is also way too low.

I came over here from Hattrick and I am well versed in knowing how to take care of a team with little funds, but this is crazy. Perhaps I just joined at the wrost time (after last regular season game), but now I have to wait a few weeks until I have an actual league game and even the $50,000 weeks won't keep me with a positive cash flow until then.

I virtually can't do anything but set lineups and and train for the 4 weeks. Kinda sucks.

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1992.5 in reply to 1992.4
Date: 10/19/2007 8:10:08 PM
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u r wrong. dont worry that much. everything that u explained is reasonablerif u look deeper into it.

I believe the new season starts next saturday. u dont have to wait 4 weeks its only one more. at least i believe so.
Your timing is not that bad, on monday is Draft day, so u get 3 pretty good players for free u would not get if u started midseason.

it is normal that u dont have many fans if your club just started. think of it this way it was the first game of your club. hire a PR manager and u will have soon many more fans. Next time u reach the playoffs u probably have full attendance.

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1992.6 in reply to 1992.5
Date: 10/19/2007 8:17:54 PM
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Hopefully that is the case.

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1992.7 in reply to 1992.4
Date: 10/19/2007 8:28:43 PM
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So my money relies on TV game revenue once or twice a season? That doesn't make much sense.

That's not a main source of revenue, it's just an ancillary one. You're team has only just started so you need some time to build up your supporters. It looks like you have a few valuable players, you could sell them if you don't plan to train them. In the next week you'll be getting a few draft picks that might bring a good player or two.

Well planned hattrick teams take their lumps for the first season or two until training programs begin to reap benefits, supporters build-up, etc. I really don't see how this is much different.

"Well, no ones gonna top that." - http://tinyurl.com/noigttt
From: VitB6

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1992.8 in reply to 1992.7
Date: 10/19/2007 8:38:23 PM
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To me it seems different, because in Hattrick if I did nothing to my team I was never at risk of going bankrupt doing nothing. Unless some miracle happens, I will be bankrupt in BB in a few weeks. My fan club can't grow that quickly during that time and nothing spectacular will happen to my gameday attendance. Even with the extra $100,000 the last two weeks, my total money is only $116,000. Keep in mind that I started with $100,000. So from my free $100,000 I have managed to keep only $16,000 of it and I havn't done a darn thing. What if I wanted to buy a player or expand the arena (as people say that is important much earlier in BB). I couldn't do it. I can't afford a high level trainer so training is going to take awhile to see the benefits, however I'll be broke by the time my guys start popping to the point they will demand more than 5-10 thousand bucks on the transfer list.

We'll see how it plays out, but right now my hands a handcuffed behind my back and I can't do anything but wait. Not too much fun, but we'll see what happens.

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1992.9 in reply to 1992.8
Date: 10/19/2007 9:43:50 PM
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Your arena when your last match was only 20% full. In this case I'd ignore the advice. On one hand this would be a bad time to start for lack of match revenue, but on the other you're just in time for the draft which might be much better for your team then a couple home games revenue (of course, depending on the players you draft).

When I started hattrick the first thing I had to do was get trainees, and to fund that I had to sell off my best players that wouldn't be part of training. At that point, my hands were tied and I couldn't get any new players until at least a season later when I could sell off a training asset or two to fund it. Long term it paid off, but short term I lost alot and wasn't able to make many moves those first few season.

In BB, you might already have players you can train and you only need a couple since you can focus training on fewer players (and they will train faster the fewer you train). I would focus on picking out a position that you have a couple young players worth training, and try to build around that. If you have older players at a training position not a bad idea to try to sell them, there's no loss is even buying them back if they don't get to a price you're happy with since there's no agent fees.

"Well, no ones gonna top that." - http://tinyurl.com/noigttt
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1992.11 in reply to 1992.10
Date: 10/20/2007 8:59:03 AM
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the trick here is to have a winning team, look at your lineup and study your players and adjust. yes thats right get a trainer and keep tweaking that lineup till you win games.

youll see you attendance growing and money coming in, now if your getting the wins better plan now since your getting the 50k, get your arena growing because as you win more games so is your attendance better get that net ready it isnt the real life that people just stand and be like bunch of hams watching.

winning is everything, sad to say this applies also here in virtual world because your sales like jerseys etc also grows.

i hope i dont sound bad but it is what it is.