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From: AW9
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Date: 11/1/2011 4:48:46 AM
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Bonjour à tout les managers Luxembourgeois, je suis là pour répondre à vos questions si besoin.

Hello at all Luxembourg managers, I am there to answer your questions if need.

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200114.3 in reply to 200114.2
Date: 11/1/2011 7:46:06 AM
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Hello potential U-21 coaches.
First of all, I have to admit hat we would preferably choose a Luxemburg Manager as a U-21 or NT coach, but there are some issues:
-We dont have many active players
-Some people used the position to their own advantage
-Nearly anyone is interested or has the time to be responsible for the NT-Teams
-Besides from some people, nobody trains the NT-Prospects properly
- and so on ....

So my questions are:

1. Have you already analyzed our prospects and drafts properly?
2. How will you motivate us to train our players correctly?
3. Do some people are going to help you, if you get our next coach?
4. What is your general advice to form a NT player?
5. What are your future plans for the U-21?
6. Have you already talked to some Lux-managers? (besides me)

So , these are some questions for everybody and I apologize for my grammatic mistakes.( Not that easy if you speak 5 languages fluently

From: AW9

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I hope that will answer your questions.

1.
Hello to all the Luxembourg managers, my name is AW9, French manager of Boston Cs, promoted in D.IV France; I play Buzzerbeater since several seasons what allows me now, in view of my experience to propose me for manager's post of the U21 of the Luxembourg. I appear at the elections with another manager who will help me in my spot, he names Macsime, the manager of the Portland JaylBlazers which are in D.IV France also. He plays Buzzerbeater since the season 7, so his big experience can be only a bonus for you and me. He will take care with making the compositions of match with me and also with improving the communication with the managers and all the Luxembourgers. We already have a common experience as staff of Senegal U21, as we led in finale of the Cup of Africa Nations with Mangoose. I am also to say to you why I can easily say to you why I chose the Luxembourg; I have family who lived there but also because the challenge of this country really interests me.

2.
The objectives of my mandate are to build a team who can win some matches at the euro hope, to directing the training to certain talented young people, and to showing that the Luxembourg is a rising value in Buzzerbeater. But also to prepare the best prospects for the selection A of the Luxembourg which is trained by another French manager Yannoch. The final goal thus is to make of the Luxembourg a team which counts in Buzzerbeater, and to shape some players susceptible to worry our opponents.

Here is a first list of prospect player:
- Interior Sector:
Geert Van De Ven (18445798)
Michel Bras (21455249)
Paulo Barra (18445776)
Gabriël Van Laethem (19975993)
Thibaut Torres (18445810)
Gunnar Treibl (19976007)
Sven Hüttner (21455205)
Nuno Trindade (19976127)
Sandro Parada (22068807)

- Outside sector:
Sébastien Barbosa (21455247)
Siegfried Salambo (19976005)
Andre Obernwohlde (19976055)
Kévin Papillon (19976004)
Mathias Péronne (21455223)
Samuel Mümmelmann (19976010)
Jelle Lacroix (19976034)
Marc Darbon (21455258)
Sönke Heumel (21455266)
Gaetan Lonneux (19976008)

- Young players from the draft Season 18
Ingvar Fässler (23180387)
Adrien Claes (23181201)
Timothy Fayet (23180381)
Reginald Lefin (23181145)
Alexis Roulle (23181202)
Xavier Royer (23181139)
Fabian Essel (23180364)

3.
We shall also create a forum for all the Luxemburg managers which will tell the matches quarter time by quarter time with the statistics of every player and also reactions according to match. The forum will also allow a Follow-up for EVERY player, who will have its own subject and thus a quite particular attention on behalf of the staff. He will also allow a permanent communication and an exchange between the members of the staff and Luxemburg managers. Thus if I am elected, I shall improve the communication but also I shall make of the team of the Luxembourg a more competitive team thanks to the work of each. I count on everything the managers because it is above all you who make that this country which is so dear to me is represented, and if I can help you by taking the head of the selection U21, I shall make him with all my envy and my enjoyment share these moments with you.

4.
The manager of the selection A of the Luxembourg named Yannoch whom you elected supports my application.

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Date: 11/1/2011 12:15:42 PM
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Hi DSH,

1. Yes I have look and analysed your draft for the season 15 and 16. I have not finish the draft of the last season but I have seen some great players like David Sauron (23180355) your player. If he will train some inside skill could become a great SF. But I can't be sure to know if those players will be good players if I don't know their skills. There is another great C with Hall Of Famer Potential ( I don't know if I can show him because he is in sale ) who propably be a very good player for U21 and NT.

2. If you have a chance to get a player in the NT teams why will you not train him?
I have a player who play for Senegal, it's nor my country but I feel proud when he play for Senegal. If I can get a player of my country I will propably be prouder. Moreover if you have a great player for NT he will be great for your team too.

3. I will not have "assistants" if I will be your next coach but I know if I want some help I can find it with Yannoch.

4. I think the skills the more important is defense, I always prefere a player with a good defense and average offense than good offense and average defense. Moreover a good player is a player who have secondary ( for me secondary is for example a C with some handling, dribbling, jump shot... ).

5. I would like to win some games of course, but I want that Luxembourg becomes a better nation in BB and for that Lux-managers have to train their players. Try to help managers for the training of PG and SG who is the weakness of the U21 for the moment.

6. I have not already talk to Lux-manager because it probably be spamming, so I prefer wait to be the coach before send BBmail to Lux-managers who have potential U21 in their teams.

I hope I have answered to your questions, if not tell me =)

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I shall take Luxemburg managers in my satff so that one day they take over.

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Date: 11/2/2011 4:34:27 AM
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Hi mate,

It is nice to see somebody from Luxemburg to take care about national team. It is always good to have in domestic league somebody, who may help U21 coach. Your questions are pretty easy for me to answer. Last 2 seasons I am coaching Pakistan U21 team with very similar structure, base and problems as you in Luxembourg.

1. Of course I saw this season draft. For me, very poor draft, only one MVP+ player selected in 3 rounds.. I cant say, what potential is in this season draft, because I cant see skills of these players, but having experience in Pakistan (small community as Luxembourg), draft is not so important for U21 manager (much important is to find managers, who will train young players and motivate domestic managers to help U21 manager).. OK my opinion, NT coach might be a little worry about this season draft, for U21 manager is this draft not so bad, because he might still work with Allstar+ potential players and there are some. Generally Allstar potential is good enough for U21 team to improve Luxembourg position in this game
2. How to motivate domestic managers? That’s the hardest task for new U21 manager in your country. To answer your question, I need to speak with your top managers before. Being Pakistan U21 manager I had quit low success to motivate domestic managers, so I founded 2 training camps abroad in Argentina and Latvia.. To answer your question, to offer an assistant (scout) job to Luxemburg managers might help a little to motivate them
3. Not sure about that. Of course I need help. Best option for me would be to have helpers from Luxembourg league (because to have close feedback from your league, watching young players in action, etc.). But if nobody from Luxembourg will be interested, I might find some in Slovakia (quite experienced)
4. One posted regular every week training (you might find this strategy on Slovak or Pakistan forum – you might see there, which skills to train and to what level – Slovakia is quite successful with this system, I may explain it, if somebody is interested)
5. I am looking for longer era as only 2 seasons in Luxembourg. The first step is to choose potential managers in your country, who want to help and who want to train young players for the future. Another thing is to create strong communication between Luxemburg managers and strong forum. Moving 10 places up the rankings for next 2 season might be quit optimistic, because of quality of draft and 19-20 years old players in your country, but I may try it.. More important is for me to adapt good training system in your league
6. No and I not intend to before election. That’s prohibited to use BB mail for presentation. But surely, after election I will do a lot. You cant be good U21 manager without support of domestic managers

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Date: 11/3/2011 1:32:29 AM
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Hello tomasko,
Why do you leave Pakistan for Luxemburg ?

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I was looking to stay there of course.. Because I started to create new generation of players, who will be on top next season. And surely, they will reach better results and best rankings for Paki U21 ever..
BUT, the problem in Pakistan is community.. There are only 2 active managers (another 14 will re-bot soon) and one of this managers is not speaking foreign language and 2nd one is not interested to NT and U21 work.. Thats the problem, see last season elections for NT manager, no vote (Bernardo won with 0 votes).. Huge ignorancy from these 2 managers and after that, I decided to quite my work in Pakistan.. Its looking like waste of my time to continue there..
Another problem is forum, see Paki forums - I started to create forums (transfers, news, U21 matches, tactics,..), but nobody from Pakistan responded.. It was only chat with 2-3 foreign managers
You may see there on old forums, a lot of foreign managers were quite happy with my work first season, I had a lot of chat with manageres who trained Paki young players, but I cant really work in such ignorant comunity..
Hope (and looks like) Luxemburg comunity is much active and would be willing to help NT and U21 manager

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As I promised, there are some instructions, how to be successful on U21 level. I followed it for last 4 seasons and I had players in Hong Kong, Spain, Slovakia, Pakistan, Greece, India and Albania U21 team..

This guide was created in cooperation with Matej_B (58463) and its object is to help managers with training players for U21 National Team and later for National Team. We hope that it will be helpful and will bring results in the future.

We will talk about single-post training (except skills where only double-position training is available, e.g. Rebounding) because double-post training is too slow for National Team purposes.

Secondary skills (e.g. Outside Defence for Center) shown below are only illustrative and it is recommended to train them before potential fulfilment.

Chance for U21 jersey have only players with following potential:
Outside players (PG, SG, SF) – al least Allstar (6) potential
Inside players (PF, C) – at least Perennial Allstar (7) potential

PG/SG Training

Ideal height: to 193 cm (6'4")
Training for PG & SG is very similar at the begining. It is priority to take advatnage of age in the first season and therefor it is highly recommended to train Outside Defence (pressure) in combination with One-on-One training. The Player should be balanced at the end of the first season and should reach at least level 8-9 in Outside Defence, Driving, Handling and Jump Shot.
If the player has any weakness at the beginning (e.g. one skill is markedly weaker than other) it is good to contact one of our scouts or just start training with this skill.
Next season (age 19) it is still required to train Outside Defence, One-on-One, but you should add Jump Range and Passing (mainly for future PG).

Required skills at the end of 20 for PG:

Jump Shot: Sensational (12)
Jump Range: Prominent (10)
Outside Defence: Tremendous (13)
Handling: Prolific (11)
Driving: Sensational (12)
Passing: Prolific (11)
Inside Shot: Inept (4)
Inside Defence: Average (6)
Rebounding: Inept (4)
Shot Blocking: Inept (4)

Required skills at the end of 20 for SG:

Jump Shot: Tremendous (13)
Jump Range: Prolific (11)
Outside Defence: Sensational (12)
Handling: Prominent (10)
Driving: Prominent (10)
Passing: Strong (8)
Inside Shot: Inept (4)
Inside Defence: Average (6)
Rebounding: Inept (4)
Shot Blocking: Inept (4)


SF training

Ideal height: 193-201 cm (6'4" - 6'7")

SF is an outside player with very good inside skills. This is the reason why his training is so similar to the PG/SG. It is useful to combine One-on-One and Pressing training at the beginning, then you can add some Outside shooting. Around 20 years of age, it is time to start with inside training – please contact U21 manager for ideal training.

Required skills at the end of 20 for SF:

Jump Shot: Tremendous (13)
Jump Range: Proficient (9)
Outside Defence: Prolific (11)
Handling: Proficient (9)
Driving: Proficient (9)
Passing: Respectable (7)
Inside Shot: Respectable (7)
Inside Defence: Strong (8)
Rebounding: Strong (8)
Shot Blocking: Average (6)

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PF/C Training

Ideal height: 201cm and more (6'7")

It is recommended to start with Inside Shot or Inside Defence according to his weakness and to continue until 2-3 level difference between these skills. Then you should train these skills until they get balanced. After that Rebounds should even Inside Defence. Repeat this procedure a few times.
If a rebounding skill is significantly lower than ID and IS (for example 6/6/3), there is a recommendation to train this skill until the level of ID. Then start with training written above.
It is not recommended to train Inside Shot with Inside Shot training over Prominent or Prolific. This skill will be trained with One-on-One training for PF/SF later.

Required skills at the end of 20 for C:

Jump Shot: Average (6)
Jump Range: Inept (4)
Outside Defence: Inept (4)
Handling: Mediocre (5)
Driving: Respectable (7)
Passing: Average (6)
Inside Shot: Sensational (12)
Inside Defence: Tremendous (13)
Rebounding: Wondrous (14)
Shot Blocking: Strong (8)


Required skills at the end of 20 for PF:

Jump Shot: Respectable (7)
Jump Range: Mediocre (5)
Outside Defence: Average (6)
Handling: Average (6)
Driving: Prominent (10)
Passing: Average (6)
Inside Shot: Tremendous (13)
Inside Defence: Sensational (12)
Rebounding: Tremendous (13)
Shot Blocking: Respectable (7)