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I'm am incredibly confused about the importance, or, lack thereof of shot-blocking. Most of the elders in the Canadian BB community say it's pretty much worthless and just drives up salary with little benefit. I'm just not convinced that it is that irrelevant. I'm getting to the point with two of my trainees where SB will start to become an anchor that slows down their training speed. Do I train it up a couple levels, or, just leave it alone?

One player is a 20 y/o PF with MVP potential. Not including stamina, he has a total of 87 skill points and his SB sits at Average.

Second player is 22 y/o PF with All-time great potential. Without stamina, he has 98 total skill points and SB of Respectable.

My goal for both of these players is that they will be in the conversation for the National Team in about 3 more seasons. Whether they make it is another story as there are lots of great Canadian players, but that is the level I'd like them to get to.

Part of me wants to buck the trend and train them both up to a SB of Prominent before working on more inside skills. Is this crazy and a total waste of time?

All thoughts/opinions appreciated, but especially from those with experience.

Cheers

if u are a stat driven manager then u can ignore SB

if u thiink SB can stop LI, it sucks

if u listen to BB, they say its an important skill

if u ask a real coach, they will say SB protect ur opponent from driving into the lane freely

if u ask a real fan, they will say SB rock

if u ask me, i have a good SBer just in case i need to shut the door

Last edited by myToast at 11/5/2011 12:08:15 AM

I don't have any experience with high shot blocking players, and don't know the entire effect of shot blocking (possibility of altering shots at the rim unnoted in PbP, etc), but the additional salary seems like a colossal hindrance based on what I do know. High SB players don't block many shots, and SB influences ID by only a minuscule amount in ratings according to CoachParrot. Minuscule would even be an understatement.

I see no tangible benefit. Higher SB is probably better than lower SB, but lower SB is more viable. And more valuable. People pay more for less. There's no way you'll be able to afford multiple NT big men with high SB btw.

SB affect how much your C foul as well so keep it in mind when you see all these team running 3 similar salary Cs instead of just straight up starters and backup.

but SB increase salary so much, it might not be worth it...

agree it isnt that it does nothing

but it is that that salaries of big men r already stupid even when they have low sb

big men with high sb will have much lower is, id & re for the same salary

if all your team can afford is say a c with a 100k salary then having sb is nice but would you rather have +4 in sb or +4 in is?

but coach coach said that he wanted his players to be of the NT level...
i partially agree that SB is of little use but an NT player should have atleast prominent SB...moreover we shouldnt forget that SB does account for elastic effect and if there is a mismatch between the other skills and SB then the training will slow down...
i would say that training SB to prominent is not a bad idea and it wont effect the salary to that much an extent that we should start to worry about a player reaching 100k salary just by getting a couple of pops in SB...

Thinking about a 17 all (IS, ID, RB) C, the difference in salary is roughly:

SB 4: 170k
SB 7: 205k
SB 10: 250k
SB 17: 350k

So we are talking about weekly salaries, and I don´t see it could be worth training SB to prominent when you have to pay 80k $ extra per week. This salary of 250k equals an 18 all C. Of course the BBs say SB is an important skill, but what else should they say?
It´s just about cost efficiency.

Thanks for the quick replies, I really appreciate the input. Two factors are pushing me away from training SB: 1) the added salary does seem to be pretty huge; 2) given that there aren't many people who think highly of SB, when I try to sell one of these guys (a possibility), I'd probably get more out of having extra 3-4 levels of passing than SB.

Thanks again guys.

it is at least a good question, and there are many different opions about it in the forums. So probadly you will get quite a lot good comment, but will be still confused about it.

I am also not sure about it, i know some good SB Centers, where i am not convinced that the extra salary is worth it. but i got one SB 11 eleven Center, which is normally a crappy number cause it is high enough to be important for salary and to low to matchup the IS of the opposition. He normally ends betwen 1,5 and 2 Blocks, when ou consider that the also affect the same amount of shots sgnificant with it, and C usually don't take that many shot, it is not unimportant.

So when the U21 coach, is with me, i like to go for more SB and nearly no ID training for my new U21 Center.

Does that mean very low SB can disrupt training of your other inside skills?

that was also the case before, but now the training get more "random" through it too.