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202328.1
Date: 11/12/2011 1:44:41 PM
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Hi,
during today's match(39525125), I decide to use my player Mena as Starter, Backup and Reserve in SG position, to train him. He fouled out after 31-32 minutes. On the bench I had 4 players:
- a Center, 30k salary
- a PF, 11k salary, JS=8, JR=3, OD=4, so not that good as SG...
- a SG, 11k salary
- a PG, 6k salary

The SG was not used in any position, while the others were used as backup or reserves in their own position.
Now, I'd like the coach to choose to use only, or at least mainly the SG, even because he was the only one who had not to play elsewhere in tactics I choose; I could even accept the PG there. But the result is:

PF: used as SG for 9 minutes
PG: 4 minutes
SG: 4 minutes
C: some second, before being broken while he was playing as SG :(

I think my "backup" SG should have played at least the 70-80% of the time (but I think he should have played there all the remaining minutes), not just 4 of 17 minutes.
(Tactic used :Strict follow Depth Chart)

Last edited by Paco el Niño de Piombo at 11/12/2011 2:02:11 PM

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202328.2 in reply to 202328.1
Date: 11/12/2011 4:17:30 PM
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Hi,
during today's match(39525125), I decide to use my player Mena as Starter, Backup and Reserve in SG position, to train him. He fouled out after 31-32 minutes. On the bench I had 4 players:
- a Center, 30k salary
- a PF, 11k salary, JS=8, JR=3, OD=4, so not that good as SG...
- a SG, 11k salary
- a PG, 6k salary

The SG was not used in any position, while the others were used as backup or reserves in their own position.
Now, I'd like the coach to choose to use only, or at least mainly the SG, even because he was the only one who had not to play elsewhere in tactics I choose; I could even accept the PG there. But the result is:

PF: used as SG for 9 minutes
PG: 4 minutes
SG: 4 minutes
C: some second, before being broken while he was playing as SG :(

I think my "backup" SG should have played at least the 70-80% of the time (but I think he should have played there all the remaining minutes), not just 4 of 17 minutes.
(Tactic used :Strict follow Depth Chart)
The thing is that it is not reasonable to expect the coach to pick upon "Best Position", as this is by definition only a recomendation.

I believe that the problem is that one should define the lineup - starter, backup and reserve fully, and that in addition to give instruction about minutes to be played (if possible).
For example, the PG starter to play at least 35 minutes but not more than 40 minutes.
Unless he will have foul or GS problems (or any other issues), he will be playing upon this scheme.
I've opened a thread about that few weeks ago.
As a "real" coach knows the status of their players and gives minutes upon that, it is reasonable to define this limits.

Basically what I'm saying is that the current usage that users do on the line-up proves how wrong it currently is defined.
You want a player to be used as a reserve, than he should be set as such.
The minutes issue should not be handled by this definition.

Last edited by Pini פיני at 11/12/2011 4:20:34 PM

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202328.4 in reply to 202328.3
Date: 11/12/2011 4:30:16 PM
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For example, the PG starter to play at least 35 minutes but not more than 40 minutes.

Having this option would make sure that training would be so easy its not even fun. The same thing would go for GS.
In case we continue with your POV, you can say - the coach should discard the line-up regarding minutes sharing.
It could be anything that he would like. He can decide that the GB starts at the second half or minute to the end.
"Why make the time spreading so easy like it is now?"

There is a line that separate reasnable coach desicions, and desicions that will make the game just to easy.
When a coach does not opperate upon reason (or more precisely, the opposite from it), it means that it is needed to be fixed.

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202328.8 in reply to 202328.2
Date: 11/13/2011 4:14:56 AM
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Hi,
during today's match(39525125), I decide to use my player Mena as Starter, Backup and Reserve in SG position, to train him. He fouled out after 31-32 minutes. On the bench I had 4 players:
- a Center, 30k salary
- a PF, 11k salary, JS=8, JR=3, OD=4, so not that good as SG...
- a SG, 11k salary
- a PG, 6k salary

The SG was not used in any position, while the others were used as backup or reserves in their own position.
Now, I'd like the coach to choose to use only, or at least mainly the SG, even because he was the only one who had not to play elsewhere in tactics I choose; I could even accept the PG there. But the result is:

PF: used as SG for 9 minutes
PG: 4 minutes
SG: 4 minutes
C: some second, before being broken while he was playing as SG :(

I think my "backup" SG should have played at least the 70-80% of the time (but I think he should have played there all the remaining minutes), not just 4 of 17 minutes.
(Tactic used :Strict follow Depth Chart)
The thing is that it is not reasonable to expect the coach to pick upon "Best Position", as this is by definition only a recomendation.

Choosing as SG a center or a PF is much less reasonable, I think. :(
My coach should be wise enough to choose a player whose position is equal (or as similar as possible) to the one I need, once he can't follow my direction like in this case.
The GE could consider the player's position and salary, or even a weighed sum of his skill, in order to choose the best player available, not a random player.
I' d probably have lost this match anyhow. I'm suggesting this just for future situations.