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Here is a simple definition for a "salary floor" that will answer the issue raised for the new promoted poor teams;

0) A team must use at least 80% of the league's average salary expense (of the previous week).
The following are exceptions that are valid to those "poor" teams that does not have the sufficient income to pay that much.

1) A team must use at least 65% of their income on players' salary.

2) At least 80%, from what remains of the weekly income after deducting the salaries can be used for the team's upgrade (Arena, purchasing a player, etc.).

3) The rest can be saved.
The numbers are just an example

Of course the additional definition of Salary-cap, and Luxury-cap are needed as well, from the other side.

[I've opened a new thread, as it is a separate suggestion from the on this had been raised at, and as seelenjaeger requested so nicely]

The advantage of this system:
Raising the floor without this definition will lead to that new promoted users may not be able to face that new floor.
Even if they can, they could not invest enough money on future income (Arena).

Of course that the need of a new definition of a salary-floor is due to the amount of tanking this game is facing, which make this game lose of its purpose and beauty.

I've never seen an entire league (except 2-4 who really play the game) of tankers in any real-league.
I've never seen a real-team that drastically changes their salary expenses few days before playoff time.
I've never seen a real-team that had tanked (especially not for a way of making money) for few seasons, and after that period used it to make a run for the trophies.

Tanking few seasons for making a single season stand does not make it a long term BB-plan.

Last edited by Pini פיני at 1/13/2012 6:46:52 PM

If you got a good team and don't want to change players and like me got the arena they want for the time being, what shall i do with the 25%?

Charity.
I don't know a team that does not need to improve anything at their team, and still has such a big revenue, compared to their expenses that they "prefer" to save it.
It just points out of a tanker.

Shall i be forced to sell some of my players just to buy new? Or build seats just for the cause of it?
Is it based on your seasons income or the season before this one?

As written - your weekly income.
To be precise, I will say that current week expected expenses will be upon previous week income.

How should we be able to keep track of how much we need to spend on each part?

It sounds pretty straight forward, and for those who it is hard, they can follow the Salary-floor that is already seen at the Economy page.

Waiting for a new excuse for the tankers...

Last edited by Pini פיני at 1/13/2012 4:47:12 PM

I don´t see any reason why your proposed system is better than simply raising the floor to like 60% of the average salary. Enlight me. So far, it just seems to be over-regulation, which leads to the game beeing less attractive and overly complicated (it´s already tough enough atm).

Last edited by LA-seelenjaeger at 1/13/2012 4:49:46 PM

What about a saver? Maybe someone has a long term plan and wants to save money for a few seasons to buy a truly great player or three amazing trainees. There are many ways to play this game.If some of those ways upset you or confuse you it does not mean that they are wrong. There is one player in my league who has millions. His team is competitive enough and he has limited time to commit to the game. Should he have to buy players because they are available when he is online or should he be allowed to take his time and buy a player that he really wants? He is not a tanker, never having been relegated. Should he be penalized because of these facts?

Also, why are you so combative? It puts a lot of people off.

Another salary cap idea? Its been like the 3-4th idea on salary cap you have come up and you get the same answers everytime.

The advantage of this system:
Raising the floor without this definition will lead to that new promoted users may not be able to face that new floor.
Even if they can, they could not invest enough money on future income (Arena).

You will find that in competitive leagues, in order to promote, your salary has to run at close to the limit of possible income for that league (i.e you are not making much money). Once you do promote, it is extremely unlikely that this roster is going to be still below the floor of the higher league. Even if you can't, with the money you save, you will be able to buy players really quickly to get you above the floor.

Of course that the need of a new definition of a salary-floor is due to the amount of tanking this game is facing, which make this game lose of its purpose and beuty.

Why not just raise the salary floor alltogether?

We are not talking real life here but game mechanics and usually the easier approach is the better approach or you will confuse the hell out of everybody and add complexity to the game. Especially when both ideas achieve the same results.

Monkey is completly correct. The salary floor is an excellent concept it ust needs the numbers tweaked a little so that it is more like about 50% on the average salaries in the league rather than the current level. For example in the ABBL right now the average salaries are about $6-700,000 but the salary floor is only $240,000. If it was raised to $300,000 it wouldn't be a huge difference but would mean the bottom teams may as well have a more competitive team but it wouldn't impact too much one competitive but very salary efficient teams.

Simple and easy to understand.

PS: I still think there should also be a salary cap above which you should have to pay a luxury tax but working out where that was could be difficult. Probably around 50% above the league average so once again taking the ABBL it would be $900,000 which right now isn't anyone.

Last edited by yodabig at 1/19/2012 12:42:16 AM

It is called - Soft and Hard Salary-caps.
The Soft one is a cap, where a team may pay above it, but will need to pay tax for that to all of the other teams who hadn't.

The Hard-cap is one that cannot be passed.

Regarding the Salary-Floor, as written, there should be exceptions (that had been described at the first message of this thread).