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Hi,
Next season will be my 4th season and i'm starting to read all the forums and get a better feel for the game. I've made a couple of major errors including blowing 800,000 on a trainee!!! And had a couple of big time draft picks in my first draft who i didn't know how to train and am worried i've squandered them! Anyway just looking for some advice on what i should do with these 3 players in question - positions training order etc

any advice much appreciated.

jb

Draft picks ----
Jonathan Casstles (19583159)
Point Guard
Weekly salary: $ 2 800
DMI: 38000
Age: 21
Height: 6'10" / 208 cm
Potential: superstarGame Shape: proficient
Jump Shot: pitiful Jump Range: mediocre
Outside Def.: strong Handling: strong
Driving: mediocre Passing: average↑
Inside Shot: awful Inside Def.: respectable
Rebounding: mediocre Shot Blocking: average
Stamina: strong Free Throw: mediocre


Brian Pumphrey (19583127)
Power Forward
Weekly salary: $ 4 293
DMI: 66100
Age: 21
Height: 6'10" / 208 cm
Potential: hall of famer
Game Shape: proficient
Jump Shot: mediocre Jump Range: inept
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: inept
Driving: strong Passing: average
Inside Shot: respectable Inside Def.: mediocre
Rebounding: proficient↑ Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: average Free Throw: strong

Lost my mind purchase---

Julio Duré (22129498)
Center
Weekly salary: $ 4 010
DMI: 60200
Age: 18
Height: 7'0" / 213 cm
Potential: hall of famer
Game Shape: proficient
Jump Shot: pitiful Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: atrocious Handling: mediocre
Driving: atrocious Passing: atrocious
Inside Shot: average Inside Def.: strong
Rebounding: strong Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: mediocre Free Throw: strong

ok dont fret about your 'lost ur mind' purchase. Its not that bad.

But lets assume that you arent actually training him or planning on training him. Stick him on the transfer market now! now now now! Someone will buy him and there is chance you may get your money back, or at least a large portion of it.
Players with hall of famer potential go for lots of money, so yer. sell him right now. The money you recoup will allow you to spend on another player, potentially another trainee. Maybe wait to see what you pick up in this years draft?

PS: says in ur transfers page that you only paid $600k for Dure? so maybe not as bad as what ur thinking?

Pumpfrey is also hall of famer potential, but he is getting old. I would also recommend selling him, someone will buy him. same with casstles, get rid of him as a trainee, too old.
Really, a 21 year old trainnee, should have a salary of AT LEAST $15k ... at least. Other people on here may say higher! Otherwise its just seriously not worth it. Training slows down dramitcally after a player turns 20/21, and if you havent put in the hard yards in his early years, then forget them as a trainee.

When i was in my 4th season, i still didnt really understand how training worked either, but i was getting there. . I understand it heaps better now. The good thing about training is that you can always go and BUY a new trainee. (ie: you dont have to draft them)...
Unless you fully understand how training works and are willing to sacrifice other players development and your team success, then dont bother with a super-high potential player and trying to get him into the national/u21 team, its so hard and competitive and really, one or two weeks of fluffed training over a 3 season period stuffs it. ... so go get a lower potential trainee so that you can 'practice' training him. ..Star, or all-star potential (and only max age 19... but buy after post-season processing, see what u get in the draft, maybe u wont have to buy one)... cause they will not cost much but should be ok..... . if you train them for one or two seasons, you can then sell them if you want and then buy a higher potential trainee once you know the ropes a bit more.
ask for help as well!

Hi Coach,

Thanks for the advice, yeah you're right 600,000 still haven't decided if i'm going to sell him yet, with castles i wasn't sure if i could actually get much for him? I was thinking to work on his jump shot and after a few pops he might be a servicable sg/sf?
With Pumphry i'm a little attached as i know if i'd developed him better he could be a real star player by now and still could be solid in my league, what do you think he's worth on the TL?

With training i was interested in your opinion if i get 15 players 48 minutes per week and they all pop (i prove at 40% effectiveness) .4 thats 6 full pops a week? But 1 position 3 players x 1 full pop (90 - 100% effective training) is 3 pops. From a reward benefit for the whole team training multiple players seems an advantage? Is my logic flawed or is it the case that in the long term i'm going to end up with 15 average players wheras with 1 position i end up with 3 stars who could contribute more?

Coach B

The best method is one or two postition training anything like team training or 3position just takes to long to get pops

in the long term i'm going to end up with 15 average players wheras with 1 position i end up with 3 stars who could contribute more?

Correct. The 15 players you train over 3 years I could buy on the transfer list for 500k combined, whereas the 3 players you 1 position train should bring in more than that EACH. I don't think there is a single case in BuzzerBeater where team training proved to be effective. I wouldn't advise an attempt to be the first with so little experience.

I would suggest picking a position to train, C and PG are the easiest because you don't have to play them out of position to train, and fill the rest of your roster with serviceable veterans. 12-13 guys maximum for your whole roster. 9 will play during regular league play and have a couple scrubs to soak up minutes in your scrimmage.

Edit: Your 21 year old players are AT BEST backups on your squad. Just too many low skills. The Center isn't bad, but I would suggest selling him because you probably won't get maximum value out of him. I think you should stick to all-star / perennial all-star potential players at first to reduce the amount you spend on trainees. They will be more than effective enough for you if you train them well.

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Hey dude

I know its tough to hear, but seriously, both Castles and Pumphry are not worth training. The reasons for this is as follows:
a) training is slower for a 21 year old compared to an 18 year old.
b) A $5k salary player who gets a few more pops is still going to only be maybe $6k or $7k salary player, which, is just not worth it.

So really, what im trying to say is the value and reward that you will get from training those guys, is minimal. I know ur attached, and, that does happen, but you will just have to get over it for the benefit of your progression. Maybe keep one as a backup and at best, he can get suppplimentary/secondary training over the next few seasons

With training, you've assumed correctly. one positoin training is always better.With the exception being Rebounding and some other methods, which you can only train at two positions. Id suggest doing some reading up on this in the other forums about training speed, effectiveness, etc just to get you up to speed on this.

Hey,

Thanks for all the advice, i've decided to try and cash in on Dure, see what i get in the draft(think there are at least 6 pretty good players in the draft so should get at least 1 good guy, + pick up another trainee and then train the other 2 as secondary trainees and use them as role players. I've got a much bigger income than league average so gonna spend one more season building stadium and then see where i am.

Thanks again for the advice.

Coach jb