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Date: 2/16/2012 5:14:46 PM
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The same user-interface like the TL, with additional box defining how many seasons ago to look for.
The outcome will be all relevant players that had been sold and match the requested definitions, and the price they had been sold at.
Needless to say that the naming of the players is irrelevant, just their skills and cost at the day of the deal. Hence, the naming will not be exposed...

The time of the day is an important information.
The exact date is not important, it could be defined like "Between Aug-2011 and Sep-2011" (one month resolution), for example.

I remember a GM saying that the price is controlled and in case someone is selling way over (twice or more) the player value, we should report him.

As this game is not about eBay purchasing, and BB-agent, and it is even not about "let's make our money due to the newbies unfamiliarity with the pricing, there should be a TLH, where one can verify what is a fair price for a player.

On the "real-world", the pricing is "basically" known, and in the NBA it is known until the penny.
No reason not to have this TLH page (except that those "BB-agent" will need to find a new method to play the game, or find a new BB-agent game).

Is it hard to implement?
Again, the developers needs to answer it and only they.
The same for the priority.

But, at the end, both the TL and the TLH are searching a DB that will look practically the same.
The size of DB for this TLH is larger than the TL, but having this information slower than the TL is totally expectable.

Is this is something that is "right"? Definitely!
Each player has "Estimated Price" on his auction page.
Why not replacing that with the ability to have the user scan prices by himself?

Currently we have a Estimated Price, that does not work on 50% of the time, and on the other, its value may be misleading on most of the time.
I guess that it takes only the potential and the best skill and search upon that factors only.
But there is to much difference on all the other skills.
Differences that the searcher is not aware of.

An old user is more familiar with the market on average, and there is no reason to give this huge advantage which leads to constant abuse of that knowledge against newbies.

This suggestion will give all users the same starting point when exploring the market, and will make the market more stable and close to real value as a whole.

Last edited by Pini פיני at 2/19/2012 5:08:44 PM

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210662.5 in reply to 210662.3
Date: 2/17/2012 7:20:46 AM
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The same user-interface like the TL, with additional box defining how many seasons ago to look for.
The outcome will be all relevant players that had been sold and match the requested definitions, and the price they had been sold at.
what is a relevant player??
See above in bold...

i mean, a relevant first division player will not say anything to a third division (or lower) user who will be looking for a player, and viceverse
And hence the definitions one will give in a search will be different, and will suite its needs.
Exactly what is done in the TL.

I remember a GM saying that the price is controlled and in case someone is selling way over (twice or more) the player value, we should report him.
As this game is not about eBay purchasing, and BB-agent, and it is even not about "let's make our money due to the newbies unfamiliarity with the pricing, there should be a TLH, where one can verify what is a fair price for a player.
the newbies, as you call them, dont have much money and they are not the ones who buy players of 2 or 3 million, with them you can get money, but buying at 50k and selling at 100 or so.
i make more money buying low and reselling players to first division teams, not newbies
this game is about all its features, not only about you like
So you are saying it is not about the features I like...
So you will need to handle this feature of TLH :) :D :DD)
And face a normal market where the prices of players are not that far from their value.

On the "real-world", the pricing is "basically" known, and in the NBA it is known until the penny.
No reason not to have this TLH page (except that those "BB-agent" will need to find a new method to play the game, or find a new BB-agent game).
Is it hard to implement?
Again, the developers needs to answer it and only they.
The same for the priority.
as kwame brown contract? as rashard lewis contract? as so many other contracts?
All those contracts had been upon market value.
They did not brought the quality expected, and that is something completely different.
And as you know - there contract is known, and anyone can read about it.
Exactly like what a TLH will bring.

But, at the end, both the TL and the TLH are searching a DB that will look practically the same.
The size of DB for this TLH is larger than the TL, but having this information slower than the TL is totally expectable.
Is this is something that is "right"? Definitely!
Each player has "Estimated Price" on his auction page.
Why not replacing that with the ability to have the user scan prices by himself?
why not replacing it with a study of TL by the user??
you analize tactics, rivals, offense, defense ... but not TL
Exactly - Study it from the books!!! Meaning the TLH. :) :D :DD)

its part of game, and its obvious that people who cares it will have an advantage over those who dont
[sarcasm]Because all "have" enough time to explore it enough to know a player value. [/sarcasm]
There will always be those who don't make this deep search, and those who will make all their money from that, and due to that - all their game will be upon that.

you say all time this is not an ebay game, but your suggest only takes it to a nintendo game for 5 years old people
Upon your "claim", this game is only about "eBay", and "BB-agent" (AKA TL). Becasue, upon your claim, implementing the TLH will make it a nintendo game.
What can I say, you are just proving on each "claim" you bring, why this TLH is needed in this game.

And once again, the "Estimated price" shows that there was an intention to give the user a rough value of a player, in order of making this game not only about BB-agent, so I feel comfortable with this TLH suggestion.

Last edited by Pini פיני at 2/17/2012 7:21:59 AM

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210662.7 in reply to 210662.6
Date: 2/17/2012 7:47:46 AM
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so ...
the summary of your post is ... ?¿?¿? nothing?¿?
you have no idea of dB or querys in any form, isnt it?
the actual site has big problems for making whatever access to a DB for making it overcharged with your TLH, which you already have in each player where you can see when and how much he cost to his manager
And as usual, and as expected, when one of the BB-agents of this game, has no answer or a claim who holds, the "implementation issue" rises once again.

Do you really think that the BBs will read this, and take your word only that this suggestion cannot be implemented due to DB difficulties?

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210662.9 in reply to 210662.5
Date: 2/17/2012 8:05:55 AM
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i don't think that it is that stupid, when you maybe can go back the last three days. Scouting new transfers, happen also today but more randomly, but this could be the counterargument for this suggestion.

it helps a bit in learning about prices, since you can go back instead of watching 1-2 similiar transfer first.

maybe something into the direction and also ask for, that it is easier to follow transaction who finished without you where you was intrested in. Maybe we could add a additional category on the bid page, "finished auctions" where you can see the final price of player/staff for some time after the auction is finished.


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210662.10 in reply to 210662.8
Date: 2/17/2012 8:08:29 AM
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so ...
the summary of your post is ... ?¿?¿? nothing?¿?
you have no idea of dB or querys in any form, isnt it?
the actual site has big problems for making whatever access to a DB for making it overcharged with your TLH, which you already have in each player where you can see when and how much he cost to his manager
And as usual, and as expected, when one of the BB-agents of this game, has no answer or a claim who holds, the "implementation issue" rises once again.

Do you really think that the BBs will read this, and take your word only that this suggestion cannot be implemented due to DB difficulties?

do you really think that whatever you do, i am going to do less transfers??
there are so many things before that to implement in TL
i ask for a prefix to me, BA from BB Agent xdddddddddd, good one ;);)
i have technical answers but the problem is that you finally is going to ask for a "black" list of users who cant make any transfers xddddddd
No one asked that you will do less transfers, but that the prices will be market prices, and will not abuse others.
You are starting "to shoot to any direction", and it just take your claims credibility even more.