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Since there seems to be a bit of discussion on next season (assuming there is one!) in the tipping thread, I figured (as suggested by Naker) that it could have its own thread...

A few of my thoughts:

I think there has to be a redraft. Mix things up, and keep it fresh. Perhaps teams can keep 3 or 4 players, then everyone else gets shoved in the draft.

One issue I think is hard to solve (without kicking out all us ABBLers) is that alot of the games are a bit uncompetitive. I'm not sure what the solution is (because noone in the ABBL wants another ABBL private league), but a thought I had was some kind of handicap system, whereby if a D2 team is playing an ABBLer they can nominate one (or two) players on the ABBL team to sit out. I'd be up for it, not sure if other ABBL teams would though.

Last, I think there needs to be some kind of weekly writeup, but I'd be against bringing back the MVPs in their old form (because frankly, its like writing a damned essay). Something like a writeup on the game of the round, the top three players of the round across the division, and maybe the upset of the round would be a more managable task, and promote discussion on the games. Oh, and I'd open that thread up for comments, unlike the old MVP threads.

It's definitely a good idea to make things manageable. What we'll find is that, once this happens, people will automatically start to input more. It's a psychological thing and I use it to encourage people when they first start out exercising. "Just do 10 pushups and 20 situps." Once they realise they only HAVE to do 10, they usually start and end up doing more. Basic example, I know, but it works.

I think there has to be a redraft. Mix things up, and keep it fresh. Perhaps teams can keep 3 or 4 players, then everyone else gets shoved in the draft.

That's not a bad idea. Maybe there can be some extensions to it to make it better?

It could also be done to the div3 vs div2 teams etc.

By doing this, there wouldn't necessarily be a "division" that had to have better managers in it.

Redraft would be a good idea. Hell, how about we just make 3 new feds? Put 3 active captains that you know will be willing to start threads in the federations ie. Bainsy, Yodabig, Skyhookz, abigfishy etc.

- 24 managers
- 3 new Federations
- 3 Captains
- 2 Protected picks each
- 5 rounds of the draft

Pick people you don't know too well, make the fishbowl about meeting new people. Perhaps we can shuffle the federations each new season to constantly breathe new life into it. Re-draft every season!!

Why have separate feds. I never got that. Just have one big fed with threads discussing each league. This way, everyone can get involved.

Last edited by pete at 8/10/2012 11:43:26 PM

It would just be the same as what we've got in these forums. What would be the point?

We add the feds to make it more competitive.

great idea 2 start the thread

agree we need a redraft but probably need 2 keep some teams

sharks have had koop, jw & akuma since season 1
we have had yoda, naker, rob & me since season 1 or 2

i would agree with the handicap system would force the abbl teams 2 really have 2 move players around

no1 wants an all abbl league that would be dull so i guess 2 equal leagues is the way 2 go

working on ur handicap system

abbl v d2 or d3 v d3
the lower team can name 2 players that cant play
abbl v d3
the lower team can name 4 players that cant play

we would have a special handicapping thread & probably the nominations would need to be in by tuesday 2 be valid - last minute nominations arent fair on the top team

only bad thing i would hate 2 play wihout xie & i know titans love udi & could u imagine smeltztroopers without smeltz? - would it be 2 complex to have each team nominate 1 guy @ the start of the season that cant be picked?

a quick writeup of the game of the round seems easy & maybe just nominating mvps of each game

& 2 be honest i havent done it much but the naker style mvps - just list 3 guys w no reasons only takes like 1 minute & is still better than nothing

would it be 2 complex to have each team nominate 1 guy @ the start of the season that cant be picked?

I think injuries would make this tough, imagine you have 2 guys injured and a third assigned to not play the season. Tuesday midnight sounds good and if no nomination then the higher div team gets to do the nominating instead but it must be on of their say top 3 or top 5 salaried players.

i think it needs to go back to 24 committed teams...

I like the idea of the feds, but i think there needs to be a league forum for each of the 2 leagues to drive more interaction between teams playing against each other.

No tanking teams :D Only teams that are gonna be competitive in their league for the upcoming season.. Maybe any team that starts tanking mid PL sits out next PL season or something. Tankers are generally less engaged than those trying, all they care about is skill pops or how much $$$ they make each week...

There is no fun limiting teams to who they can and can not play on their roster... the PL is the 1 game each week you get to put everything on the court, with no training restrictions and just play the best team.. everyone should be entitled to that chance.. Maybe i wont beat Yoda in a PL game, but i might learn something out of the experience!

No re-draft.. the calamari have a good fed, why should they be split up because 2 other feds cant get their shit together? tthe tipping contest was designed to do just that for the league overall, maybe whoever the fed commishes are need to be pro-active and start different things in feds to get posts happening!

@ petevas the reason we have seperate feds is we have a lot of secrets there

* in the old days we used to plan out all our pl games strategy
* scouting reports of all the other teams in the pl with their players from anytime they were for sale or were bought
* drafting lists - sometimes we have had 3-4 calamari in 1 league & we share info - could have done it this season in abbl but yoda & trikster arent drafting
* league strategy which is great 2 get the opinion of 1 or 2 guys you respect like trikster, iwen, yoda, rob, naker etc but u dont want so many people seeing it that there is a leak & it gets back 2 ur opponent
* training updates - we do this every week
* the occasional bitch session about peeps like fanny, zyler, splitj etc
* full lists of our players skills - not every1 does this but if u want peeps opinions they need the facts & obv we dont want 2 many seing these

enough?

@ leeroy

i agree w just 3 feds - sharks still have a very active core & so do we calamai but from what i hear guppies/oil tankers & kevin r long dead

so i agree with everything u said

* 24 managers in 2 equal leagues w mllamas handicap system - if u dont agree dont play
* 3 newish federations calamari, sharks & ???
* 3 captains - maybe yoda, koop & mllama would be good as they r 3 top level abbl teams
* 2 protected picks each - but who decides wont every1 want whitebeard as a protected pick?
* 5 rounds in the draft

@ skyhook good point against the handicap system

i often do "test" lineups in the pl & use it to experiment & with some top players out that wouldnt work

thinking aloud about the 3 federations

if it was
yoda - calamari
koop - sharks
mllama - sea otters? beavers? platypuses? (trying 2 think of the closest aquatic creature 2 a wombat)

protected picks could be

yoda - calamari - naker & abigfishy
koop - sharks - jw & akuma
mllama - platypuses - dire & coachnoodles

i know yoda would try 2 pick as many as he could of rob, trikster, matty, ezyfrag while koop would surely want wb, bainsy & skyhooks

Last edited by abigfishy at 8/11/2012 1:15:26 AM