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From: ezlife
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Date: 8/23/2012 10:30:06 AM
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So last night I was counting my sheeps when this came to my mind:

what if you try a different kind of efficiency for your players?

for example, you train a big man in whatever can be useful on the offensive end and try to keep his ID and SB as low as you can. You'd then push his OD to a maximum. His OD would be basically free. Then you work the same way with your guards (training ID, RB and SB + standard offensive skillset). Finally, you switch defensive position during the game.

I've tried to put this up on a salary calculator and it looked like the bigs could be really strong with around 50k salary. However, the guards would be more expensive since they'd all turn into small forwards but in the end you can have decent starting guards for any upper league and pay them 100k per week.

The good point of this is that one team would have no weakness on both sides of the floor, for an affordable price.

Of course, nobody has ever done it and there is no such player on the market. However, if a few managers start to build that way, it'd be interesting to see how it works out!

That was the thought of the night.

Thanks for reading

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Date: 8/23/2012 10:37:44 AM
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Wow! I think you might be on to something that has the potential to be big.

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Date: 8/23/2012 10:41:21 AM
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But one thing that might need consideration is height, when training..?

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Date: 8/23/2012 10:52:46 AM
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isn't Lordy trying to do something like this in his training?

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Date: 8/23/2012 12:19:16 PM
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I don't think height really matters:

players train faster when they're younger. smash OD (and HA) on an 18yo big man trainee for 3 seasons, should get you to a very decent level. Then train him inside and it you will enjoy the height factor.

I think the issue is more about the number of teams interested in doing this. It's certainly not an easy training plan and it could help to share it among a few teams and then transfer players to one another to facilitate the process.

Moreover, I'm not too sure about the guards: they can become really expensive if you go for good SB, RB and ID due to their change of position to SF. This remains to be tested! However, I'm just taking a "perfect" team with no weaknesses as an example. You could also go for less rebounding on guards, since RB is a team stat and you'll have it sky high on your center that play defense at guard.

Anyway, I'm still on my passing team plan so I probably won't test this strategy right now... unless I change my mind haha

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Date: 8/23/2012 7:36:59 PM
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I have already decided that I would try this training out when player this season and make him your build with ID and then guard skills such as passing and handling and driving and a bit of shooting I'll let you know how he goes

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From: ezlife

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I wonder how it'd go with guards on the other hand: you need to train their SB, RB and ID. That's a lot for small trainees before you would have to switch to their offensive skillset. It sounds ways too long. I reckon if someone can make it happen, he would become close to unbeatable.

(unless you start with an ideal skillset?)

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From: Brooksy

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Date: 8/23/2012 7:49:18 PM
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Rebounding will take awhile but he has average ID and decent shotblocking. And all guar skills are food either average or respectable except for od and driving.

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So basically you need a team full of SF's that are really crappy in one of the defensive skills. Be interesting to see what sort of team you could put together doing this and how long and hard it would be to do.

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Date: 8/23/2012 10:18:44 PM
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Yeah, but mostly in defensive skills only.

You have to do the math for your final skillset. My ideal height came out at 6'8 despite most of the levels being in OD.

It also isn't very sustainable training wise (at least, that I have found). You can do a big push but then a new set of guys really breaks it... May have to rethink it, maybe there is a way to cycle things better.

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Date: 8/23/2012 10:51:49 PM
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Well...

You can only train 3 guys at a time. And probably normally only 2 guys well, given bb loves to stuff up training minutes

And it would probably take 7-8 season's to train them.

And since you can only train your trainees the same way, you either end up with two bags who can't defend inside, or two small who can't defend outside. Which is useless without their opposite player.

And since not many of these players exist, you'd be hard pressed to nab one off the market.

It's an interesting idea, but would require a lot of effort and coordination to work, and you'd probably need to cooperate with another manage to train up the opposite player to your guy, and then trade. And even then, you only end up with 2 players like this, not a teamful.