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227876.1
Date: 10/2/2012 3:20:03 PM
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Hey guys,

I'm new to BB and I'm on my first team. I wanted to ask you guys which of the below players I should train and which I should sell? Both players are excellent prospects with HOF potential though one is a SG and the other a PF. Since I understand training to be slow I think it's best I keep one and focus my training on him and sell the other so I can begin to build the rest of the roster. Let me know what you guys think. I'm in D4.

Player 1: SG
Age: 18
Height: 6'3" / 190 cm
Potential: hall of famer

Jump Shot: respectable
Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: respectable
Handling: inept
Driving: inept
Passing: awful
Inside Shot: awful
Inside Def.: average
Rebounding: pitiful
Shot Blocking: atrocious
Stamina: mediocre
Free Throw: average

PLayer 2: PF
Age: 18
Height: 6'8" / 203 cm
Potential: hall of famer

Jump Shot: respectable
Jump Range: average
Outside Def.: atrocious
Handling: mediocre
Driving: atrocious
Passing: respectable
Inside Shot: average
Inside Def.: inept
Rebounding: mediocre
Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: respectable
Free Throw: atrocious

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227876.2 in reply to 227876.1
Date: 10/2/2012 3:37:54 PM
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I like the 6'3" guy for a few reasons

He's got great JS/JR/OD, and nice ID. He need a good deal of passing training, but that will happen pretty fast. But beyond the skills, he has a few other things going for him:

He's american. THat means he'll earn more merchandise for you
he's an original member of your roster. That means he's treated as a draftee, which gives even more merchandise money.
he's not very fouly. 7 fould in 365 minutes of league play is excellent, meaning he'll be easy to train and less likely to get injured.

YOur other guy fails all those extra things.

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227876.3 in reply to 227876.1
Date: 10/2/2012 3:38:25 PM
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Player 1 is a better prospect. He'll make a good SG or PG, depending on how you train him. He'll take 'til the end of the season before he could start in D4, but by the time he turns 20 he'll be really solid.

You might want to consider training player 2 along with player 1 for the rest of the season or at least until you can get rid of those ugly "atrocious" OD and DR stats. Those are important skills for PF's, and you could maximize your profits by making those look a little less ugly before you sell. Even a week or 2 each on pressure and 1v1 could make a world of difference in sale price.

Good luck. Let us know what you decide and how it works out.

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227876.4 in reply to 227876.1
Date: 10/2/2012 3:38:51 PM
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oh yeah, +1 ball for the team name play on Pantera. Nicely done.

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227876.5 in reply to 227876.4
Date: 10/2/2012 3:40:39 PM
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Ninja-ed by my mentor!

Listen to Tangosz. He knows what he's talking about.

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227876.6 in reply to 227876.3
Date: 10/2/2012 3:45:55 PM
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I agree, prospect 1 looks better, but if he can keep both until the end of the season or so he can get way more for prospect 2. Nonetheless, 2 great trainees, anyone would like to have em both in their roster. Also, having 2 trainees is good as they can train together, which I like...

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227876.7 in reply to 227876.6
Date: 10/2/2012 7:41:29 PM
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Bigs are cheap on the TL, Guards are not. Bigs skyrocket in salaries, Guards don't tend to do that too much. Big has 1 OD, which is basically overkill for a PF and would actually make him a C. The guard on the other hand, has pretty decent secondaries you could pop into later on. Logic is

Train Guard, sell PF after getting about 3 OD pops. Make sure though to keep track of his salary. Two ways to keep track is going to Buzzer Manager (I like this one a lot) (http://www.buzzer-manager.com/en/maj_ligue/)

If you want a very accurate one go to the USA Offsite and sign up (http://s3.zetaboards.com/BuzzerBeater_USA_NT/index/)

Both rely on having a BB Key so set that up first before anything.


also. If you see he's getting to be almost a lil too much for you to keep, just train some ID and that wil keep him a minimal.

So in the end with the HOF Guy you could have a LI SG. Which means you could play him at SF or SG, depending on whether the opponent is a Look Inside team or not (they go to Bigs for scoring)

this is what I'd aim for: 13/11/15/11/11/13-/7/12?/X/X-/X/X

the question mark is wheter he'd ever get to 12 ID depends on how fast he trains.

hope this advice helps you

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227876.8 in reply to 227876.7
Date: 10/2/2012 8:52:27 PM
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tough, the 12ID is pointless. He's never gonna be a SF. His inside starting skills are too low for a 6'3" guy.

Fat Free Donut, if you train "Pressure," you get a little inside defense. That bit of ID on top of the average ID he already has will be plenty to stop the guards he'll face. By the time you get to 15 OD, you'll be at 8ID, which should more than suffice in most situations.

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227876.9 in reply to 227876.1
Date: 10/3/2012 2:34:53 AM
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I'm not as experienced in the development of talent, so i cant be completely useful to you in that regard, and will withdraw any comments about your SG other than to say that he looks like a great talent for you to use. What i do know a lot about is market strategy, as i've been doing a lot of analysis on it over the length of my stay in Buzzer Beater

I don't think the play on the PF is to develop his atrocious skills. Doing a quick market search, the amount of 18 year old with HOF potential alone are pretty small over the course of the next few weeks. Most of these come in with unreasonable expectations for the dollars they're asking, but as you may or may not have noticed most of the guys on the market that are in the 300's are getting plays regardless of whether or not they're good. And who knows, some might get into the mid 400's. I think rather than wait until 19 where the market is saturated with almost twice the amount of 4k salaried guys, and they're drawing closer to 200-300 rather than 300-400.

Long story short, you made a not so good buy on the PF imo. I think however that a 70-80% recovery of the buy is possible upon exit of his 1 week injury, and that would be my advice to you. Dont set the price too high trying to get profit back.

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227876.10 in reply to 227876.9
Date: 10/3/2012 10:23:50 AM
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Thanks guys. I think you all make valid points and I definitely appreciate the insight. I probably made a bit of an impusle buy with this PF. I was actually on the market for a semi-decent PG and then got wrapped up in the Bidding process for this PF. Long story short, I think the best move is to resell him and recoup some of my losses. We'll see what I can get for him.

In the interm, I'm going to keep training OD with my SG for probably the remainder of the season. I've been told that defense pops slowly so my strategy is to train that as much as possible while he's still 18 so that I can get it at a decent level by the end of his first year. Then, I'll start training some of the other traits. He has good JS abilities so I think I'll start the 1-on-1 training to boost his handling and driving abilities. I don't have a great PG prospect so I think maybe I'll try to get a cheap PG who I can train with him. We'll see. thanks for all of the advice.

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227876.11 in reply to 227876.5
Date: 10/6/2012 10:54:25 AM
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nah he doesnt (hes just another manager on the block)

JK.

Tango knows me so he knows im joking.