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228999.1
Date: 10/28/2012 9:34:35 PM
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My team has 4 very good contributors. The only problem is: They still cant win. What pieces can complete the puzzle? Are we too thin? I want this to be a two season project. I like my pg, pf and C. I'd like sell my sg and upgrade by the end of next season. And then 2 seasons from now, buy another beastly pf/c to back up my two already really good ones. I feel like i dont want to worry to much about SF as of right now. I just want to get to D2 at some point. What will get me there?


http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/29178/players.aspx

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228999.2 in reply to 228999.1
Date: 10/28/2012 10:11:29 PM
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Sell the 33 year old while you can.

I think you would have better success with 2 50k players instead of a 90k and a 7k player.

And even then, you wouldn't have any bench strength at all. So that means getting rid of the other 90k player and turning that into a few guys, maybe 60k + 20k + 20k.

Last edited by Kumiko (CAN U21) at 10/28/2012 10:13:30 PM

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228999.3 in reply to 228999.1
Date: 10/28/2012 10:12:05 PM
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Your 4th most expensive player has salary 6 times as much as number 5; it's gonna be hard to win like that. I would sell one or both of your Cs and buy a more balanced roster.

Just think about the number of skills that the last 30k of those 90k salaries buys (3-4), and think how many skills adding 30k salary to your backups/5th player would add (40+).

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228999.5 in reply to 228999.4
Date: 10/29/2012 6:31:46 PM
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My offcial plan is to sell Bradshaw (90k big man) and my 33 y/o sg, Justo Angulo, and my 30 y/o pg quaqlieri. After that I will buy a couple 35k sg's and maybe a few 10-20k old big men to hold me over. Then next season i will buy a younger 35k big man and 75k sg at the end of the season. Then at the end of that following season buy a younger 50k big man.

Then my roster will look like this:

35k pg/35k backup (will back up sg too)
75k sg/35k back up
10k sf/5k backup
50k pf/35k backup (will back up center too)
100k c/ 35k backup

It will be an 8 man rotation, the top 5 will be amazing. We wont even have to worry about backups, as long as they make small contributions. Salaries would only add up to like 350k, which is not bad at all for D2, if I ever get there.

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228999.6 in reply to 228999.5
Date: 10/29/2012 7:17:55 PM
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I would consider spending more on your backup guard when using an 8 man rotation. If you play your starters 70 minutes a week, that still leaves 58 minutes left over for your backup.

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Date: 10/29/2012 9:47:46 PM
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Alright, I fixed the plan once and for all. I edited it, so look above if you wanna see it. Hopefully it will work.

Last edited by Shulim Saleschutz at 10/29/2012 9:48:19 PM

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228999.9 in reply to 228999.1
Date: 10/30/2012 5:56:16 PM
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I thought the same thing about a SF. And let me tell you, I was wrong. Small Forwards are very important and very underrated in Buzzerbeater. I was good at PG, SG, PF, and C. I was weak at SF (Played by a 19 year old.) I bought a SF and he just kind of pulled everything together. I now have a complete team and now I'm just some good bench guys away from a championship. So the point is, a SF will get you to D2. Hope this helps! :D

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228999.10 in reply to 228999.9
Date: 10/30/2012 8:30:43 PM
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SF is just as important as every other position. But that is not the whole story:

On average, SF are more expensive than other positions for how effective they are. This is because SF's are hard to train (need to do lots out of position training) and because they need lots of skills.

On average, SFs are more effective per unit of salary than other positions. This is because they can utilize a lot of skills that don't cost them very much.

What this ends up meaning is that for poorer or newer teams, skimping a bit on the SF is usually smart since they cost more per unit of effectiveness. But once a team has built up some value in their roster and has good cash flow, spending cash on an SF is smart because it's a good way to improve your team without increasing salary too much.

In the OP's case, I think it is smart to have worse SF than other positions. But he is probably taking it too far with those salary ratios. Also as Manon alluded to if you are gonna skimp on the SF look for one with at least decent defense.

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228999.11 in reply to 228999.10
Date: 10/30/2012 8:56:36 PM
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Not all postions in the sports world are equally important. In football, the Quarterback can make our break a team (See Cassel, Matt.) The Kansas City Chiefs have a young roster full of talent, but they can't win because Matt Cassel is awful. In baseball, while pitching is very important, I would have to argue that catcher is the most important position because they run the game. I never said SF was more important than any other position. I said they are underrated (obviously by you.) And yes Manon said look for a SF with good defense, but he also said that it was the weakest link in the chain. You have to have a balanced team in any sport to win a championship. That's all I was saying.