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Im not very knowledgeable with regards to transfers in and out especially when it comes to much a player is worth ... so try where possible to stick to the apparent "market value" suggested by recent transfers.

However over the last few days (mainly because i am in the market to improve my team for next season) and having been looking around, i seen to notice alot of players having no bids on them, but with the current owner of the player pricing the player WAY above suggested market value.... Is this just down to their extreme hopeful optimism or complete bravado that they know someone foolish enough will pay the money without looking ?

Basically should i stick to the market value suggested or should i bite the bullet and just keep searching for someone who actually prices their players in the correct range ?

Suggested market value (SMV) in most cases is wrong. The reason is simple to explain - it uses only 3 features:
- age
- potential
- highest skill

SMV obviously can't value correctly multiskilled players.

To show you how it works let's make 2 examples:

Player A
JS: 7
JR: 7
OD: 7
HN: 7
DV: 7
PS: 7
IS: 15
ID: 7
RB: 7
SB: 7

Player B
JS: 10
JR: 10
OD: 10
HN: 10
DV: 10
PS: 10
IS: 15
ID: 14
RB: 13
SB: 12

Both of them have the same: potential, age, best position. SMV would be the same for both of them, but you should know which one should costs more ;)

the best market right now is on young talent, 18 specifically, that is between 8 and 14 skill points behind what i'd consider the low point of a NT caliber player in most competitive countries. i've spent about 315k on 2 players that i'd otherwise have spent about 750k on.

1. Dont bid because you are "stealing players from PO contenders" is not a valid argument for an open market.
2. Dont bid because they are overpriced is a valid argument. (and they can be overpriced because people bid against desperate PO contenders ;)

"You won't be playing any important games so you don't need to spend money on a player yet."
This would only be true if the market would be able to supply all types of players at all times, which it does not.
If your "Dream-player" pops up on TL, bid.

A couple of items you have not taken into account
Teams may already be setting up for the next season even if they are out of the PO.
Also remember, those of us that are out of it don't have to worry about paying salaries
so we can take on contracts now, easier than playoff teams.
A good transfer is a good transfer.
People should NEVER keep off shopping.
Those in contention would have been wise to buy last week
absorb an extra week of salary without the burden of extra pushed up prices

I don't think the transfer list is that daunting a tool for a new team to grasp. i think talent development is far more scary for the untrained person.

I often tell anyone who asks me for advice and/or basic mentoring that they should ignore the listed market value for a player. I suggest that they keep an eye open at all times for any talent, but at the end of the day that there are reasons for why a veteran is cheaper in the middle of the season than at the start or right before the playoff deadline. Additionally, i explain that a loss in potential pops in the age 18 year for talent causes several higher division teams to begin ignoring certain young talents in the development portion of the TL, and therefore the later the season goes on the more likely a developmental talent comes along that is affordable to even a D.5 team and can make an impact through division 3. This advice also includes NEVER putting a position in the TL box (because you can do it more on height or on specific qualifiers in certain parts of the players game, and you'll not miss out on that 6'2" SF that has inside secondaries worth your while and a good starting point on the outside that will only get better).

Teaching a new player the TL, whether you're a talent development enthusiast or a fast veteran climber type, is typically where i start. Game shape and lineup strats are helpful too.

I could easily just sell 3 of my players (lets say Yuce Bekdemer, Runyon, and Metcalf), and end up close to even. Whether or not i sit at -1m or even or +1m is only a signal of whether or not i'm spending time trying to play the market, which has less to do with direct amounts of cash spent and more to do with salary. I'd gladly not play the market, where i would have to make at least 30k per investment in a 1 month turnover to overcome the salary cost incurred to take them on.

a good poster just lost a ton of respect.

Last edited by FuriousSK at 11/5/2012 7:29:12 PM