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From: Scipio
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Date: 11/24/2012 10:16:27 AM
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Hi folks,

I am going to start being more serious about buying a trainee to train and sell for profit to boost my funds. I would like some advice from those of you who have more experience than me in doing this.

I am wondering if it is better to buy a lower potential player ie All Star or Perennial All Star to trian for one season, maybe two then sell than it is to buy much higher potential players to do the same. I ask this because you obviously have to pay more when buying a higher potential player, let`s say superstar/MVP than you do buying an All Star/ Perennial All Star player. It seems to me that you cannot sell that higher potential player for a great deal more than you paid for him after one maybe two seasons training, which means that your profit is lower. However, you can get the lower potential players for much less money and therefore selling them after one or two seasons appears to bring in more of an overall profit. Maybe not as much as selling the higher potential player but because of the lower purchase price the profit should be higher.

I hope that I have explained my question to you all properly and I would love to hear your thoughts. Is it better to buy lower potential players and train them to sell or better to buy higher potential players bearing in mind the purchase costs and the potential profit? If you have any other hints or advice on how I can maximise my profit then please post.

Thanks for your time.

Scipio

From: Big Dogs

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230361.2 in reply to 230361.1
Date: 11/24/2012 10:49:51 AM
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Well, this all depends on your financial situation. I would recommend buying a lower potential player for profit, like you stated, but also for the training experience. When I had my first trainee, he was a low potential player. Unfortunately, I had no clue what 2-position training was back then, so he training was a bit slower than what it would've been. The good thing was, I was still able to make a little profit after ~1.5 seasons of training.

Had I tried to train a high potential player, I would not only have lost money, but also wasted talent. If you are the type of user who likes to train, then sell for a higher price, and then do the same thing all over again, then buying lower potential players may be your best option.

Maybe someone can tell me otherwise, but the last time in my recent memory that a high potential player has made a user much profit (besides selling them as 18 YO's in the first week of the season) is if that player had good secondaries when placed on the player market. It is then that people will begin to overpay for these rare players. Which brings me to another thing: good secondaries will garner you even more profit for your low potential players.

I hope you understood this post and good luck in your training program.

From: Scipio

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230361.3 in reply to 230361.2
Date: 11/24/2012 11:03:41 AM
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Thanks for the reply.

I have been training players ever since I started playing here, it`s actually my favourite part of the game but all my trainees have been for my team. Now I need to start making some money form training to sell on. Your replay has pretty much confirmed what I suspected so thanks. A couple of weeks after the draft, when the market has calmed down a little prices for 18yo all star/ perennial all star players drops and you can pick up good young players for very little. I think that these are the players that will probably bring you most profit if you are only going to train for 1 or 1.5 seasons.

Thanks

From: ibarix

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Date: 11/24/2012 11:33:15 AM
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The fastest way to get some bucks from trainees (even bad ones) is half season training on 1 position then selling so you get around 300k profit from him. Here's what I did not too long ago. I bought one not so good trainee for 50k. Then I trained him on 1 position level 4 trainer. I monitored his estimated value and when minimum estimated value got to 350k (350k minus 50k I payed for him = ~300k profit), I started putting him on the transfer list and continued to train him. So my goal was to get 300k as soon as possible. After 2-3 times he was on the TL, one manager comes in and buys my guy for 400k. It took me 7-8 weeks for this.

So, if you could do this in 7 weeks, that's 2 times a season and that's like getting 600k for nothing. That's the fastest way I came up with.

27.5.-23.7.2012. Ramush Zguro
http://www.buzzerbeater.com/player/25311511/overview.aspx
As you can see, he's no beast and I got 300k in half season just by training.

From: Scipio

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230361.5 in reply to 230361.4
Date: 11/24/2012 11:41:21 AM
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Cool, thanks

So would you train him on only one skill using one position trianing or on a couple of skills?

From: ibarix

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Date: 11/24/2012 11:51:21 AM
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Couple of skills so he gets elastic effect, cross training and all the sh*t that comes with that. :)

He got 7 skills in 8 weeks. He trained 4 weeks IS, 2 weeks ID and 2 weeks REB (not in that order, it was mixed). He got pops: 1 JS, 3 IS, 2 ID and 1 REB.

From: Scipio

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Date: 11/24/2012 11:53:27 AM
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That`s great, thanks. That will really help me out next season. I don`t understand the elastic effect. I`ll have to ask another question about that sometime.

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From: ibarix

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230361.9 in reply to 230361.7
Date: 11/24/2012 12:03:00 PM
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In short, really low skills get boost in training from high connected skills. In example, passing trains primarily PAS then some HAN and DRI. So if your player has high HAN (13) and DRI (12) and low PAS (2), then PAS will train faster. The bigger the difference, the bigger elastic effect and thus training of that low skill.

From: Scipio

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Date: 11/24/2012 12:09:20 PM
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Okay, thanks, I understand it. I realise now that I knew that. lol. I didn`t realise it was referred to as the elastic effect. lol

Thanks for the help and good luck for your future.

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Date: 11/24/2012 1:00:12 PM
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that's like getting 600k for nothing.

Nothing is free. How much are you paying for the trainer?

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